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Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by space-candy » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 4:12 PM UTC

FreakyT wrote: post #14

ruffrey wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the original Jelly. Had high hopes of getting a small modern phone, with minimal features but no time wasting apps, but returned it. Battery life was hours. It wasn’t safe to take to work because it’d be dead in an hour of listening to music on the commute. Phone call quality was so poor my family and coworkers went mutiny. I could hear them fine but the mic was awful, apparently. The screen was so, so small th…

You might be in luck later this year — rumor is that the smallest model of “iPhone 12” will be almost the same case size as the classic SE.

Feel like I have been hearing those rumors for years.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by croes » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

With StockROM it would be interesting. The first Jelly doesn't seem to get updates anymore.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by supernova87a » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 4:51 PM UTC

Everyone is so concerned about privacy. Apple, Android, Google, etc. spend billions of $ and hundreds of people on managing privacy for their mobile devices, vetting apps, monitoring and hardening the hardware against hacking. Even then they don't get it totally right.

What are the chances some new small phone prototyper is going to do this properly to the point I trust it enough that the novelty of something smaller is more valuable than not getting hacked and monitored?

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by stronglikedan » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 4:53 PM UTC

axegon_ wrote: post #19

A phone like this would be absolutely perfect in my world. Not as a daily phone or a phone at all but rather a bicycle computer with extended features. Shoving a 5-6-7 inch screen on the handlebar is borderline impossible and and anything but optimal. But something like this could be perfect: exercise tracking, music player, with some additional work you could hook it up to a camera mounted under the seat and have a…

And here I am shoving a 6 inch screen on my handlebars, because I'd crash if I had to wear my reading glasses while riding. Take my advice and don't get old.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by Dunedan » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM UTC

The volume of the Unihertz Jelly 2 (77.4cm³) is more than 13% larger than the volume of an Apple iPhone SE (2020) (68cm³)!

I consider that to be a good reminder that there is no free lunch: If you build such a small smartphone, you suddenly don't have enough space behind the screen for a flat battery anymore, forcing you to increase the depth of the device to fit an adequate battery. You then end up with a device with a similar volume as one with a larger screen.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by mirkules » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM UTC

axegon_ wrote: post #19

A phone like this would be absolutely perfect in my world. Not as a daily phone or a phone at all but rather a bicycle computer with extended features. Shoving a 5-6-7 inch screen on the handlebar is borderline impossible and and anything but optimal. But something like this could be perfect: exercise tracking, music player, with some additional work you could hook it up to a camera mounted under the seat and have a…

I would caution against mounting phones on handlebars. I used an iPhone for a few months, and then I noticed my camera would constantly jitter - constant shaking and bumping damaged the camera’s autofocus.

Using them once in a while is probably ok, but I think the internal electronics of a phone are not rated or tested for such constant “abuse”

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by brutt » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

axegon_ wrote: post #19

A phone like this would be absolutely perfect in my world. Not as a daily phone or a phone at all but rather a bicycle computer with extended features. Shoving a 5-6-7 inch screen on the handlebar is borderline impossible and and anything but optimal. But something like this could be perfect: exercise tracking, music player, with some additional work you could hook it up to a camera mounted under the seat and have a…

Which extended features you need to have on the bicycle computer, for example? I'm already overwhelmed with features my bicomp has. (I use SC Dash M50, because I like it small pebble like size).

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by glitchc » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM UTC

That's a chunky monkey!

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by panpanna » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 5:11 PM UTC

If Sony ever brings back Xperia Mini I will be a happy man.

I don't want the best camera or the fastest cpu. Can live with a tiny display. Just give me something that can run Android 10 reasonably well in a tiny package and you have my money.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by jbay808 » Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

panpanna wrote: post #29

If Sony ever brings back Xperia Mini I will be a happy man. I don't want the best camera or the fastest cpu. Can live with a tiny display. Just give me something that can run Android 10 reasonably well in a tiny package and you have my money.

Do you mean the Xperia Compact, or did they have a separate Mini line too?

I love Sony's phones, but their product naming confuses me to no end...