Oh my God, they have the Tandy 2000 font.
The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
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Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#22Unrelated to the fonts, but I really love that CSS they're using to emulate the ANSI interfaces of my youth. Perhaps it's just a product of my age, but I find it a lot more usable then a lot of similar website interfaces.
It's so incredibly easy to parse visually. I'm in heaven. The lime-green background for selected text adds a special touch! I wish there was a CSS framework for this type of UI language
Something like TuiCss[1]?
Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#23It never ceases to amaze me that the IBM PC got these fonts when IBM big iron terminals had a much nicer, modern geometric sans serif font. They just needed to use the 5100 font or terminal fonts they were already using.
Yeah, I really hated the standard IBM font too... trying to look like a serif font and having to "fall back" to sans serif most of the time anyway because there just wasn't enough space for the serifs... why?! And the patterns drawn with the standard background "pattern characters" looked horrible in the 80x25 mode which was used most of the time, because the hardware inserted an extra column repeating the 8th column, so the font matrix was actually 9x16, but the font didn't account for that.
Actually back in the bad old DOS days I went as far as realizing that it was really easy to replace the "default" font (at least on German/non-US machines, which installed a different font from a file which contained the correct characters for the German code page). So I wrote a small program to hack this code page file and insert my own sans-serif font. An additional realization was that 8 = 3+1+3+1 - so if you designed your "pattern characters" to have 2 "patterned" columns 3 pixels wide and 2 empty columns 1 pixel wide (so the repeated column would be empty too), the pattern would look nicer when shown in the 9x16 matrix. I wonder if I still have that laying around somewhere...
Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are on Linux, you will probably want to convert to OTB instead. Pango has dropped support for BDF and it’s just a matter of time before your distro gets hit with the full effect (if you are on a “stable” channel then you probably haven’t gotten hit yet). If you use old-school X programs without Pango you may not notice, but nearly everything on Linux that doesn’t look like XTerm uses Pango. See: https://fedora…
Makes sense. Bdf is an X11 format, and X is deprecated technology. X font rendering is certainly deprecated.
> X is deprecated technology
That is false, X and Xorg are being under continuous development. Some Wayland fanboys use this as weaselwords to convince less informed people to migrate to it in an attempt to increase its user share, but Xorg still has dedicated developers working on it and it wont go anywhere for the foreseeable future.
Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#25This led me on a short Google trip to find the Sun Openboot font: Finding this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/307356/what-is-the-... And this is the TTF of that font: https://github.com/Zygo/xscreensaver/blob/master/OSX/gallant...
Around 2000, I worked at Lucent, which was a Sun shop. But I can't remember this font. Was it only used on the console, i.e. in text mode?
Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are on Linux, you will probably want to convert to OTB instead. Pango has dropped support for BDF and it’s just a matter of time before your distro gets hit with the full effect (if you are on a “stable” channel then you probably haven’t gotten hit yet). If you use old-school X programs without Pango you may not notice, but nearly everything on Linux that doesn’t look like XTerm uses Pango. See: https://fedora…
Makes sense. Bdf is an X11 format, and X is deprecated technology. X font rendering is certainly deprecated.
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Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are on Linux, you will probably want to convert to OTB instead. Pango has dropped support for BDF and it’s just a matter of time before your distro gets hit with the full effect (if you are on a “stable” channel then you probably haven’t gotten hit yet). If you use old-school X programs without Pango you may not notice, but nearly everything on Linux that doesn’t look like XTerm uses Pango. See: https://fedora…
Makes sense. Bdf is an X11 format, and X is deprecated technology. X font rendering is certainly deprecated.
Wayland fans: so desperate for traction that they'll snap up any chance to spread false information. Or maybe this commenter doesn't know the difference between gnome/pango and xorg/xft?
Xorg isn't going anywhere for a very long time.
Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Makes sense. Bdf is an X11 format, and X is deprecated technology. X font rendering is certainly deprecated.
Wayland fans: so desperate for traction that they'll snap up any chance to spread false information. Or maybe this commenter doesn't know the difference between gnome/pango and xorg/xft? Xorg isn't going anywhere for a very long time.
From day one Wayland struck me as a completely unnecessary effort that could instead have been spent making Xorg better and fixing its problems. If aspects of Xorg are ugly, create new extensions and deprecate the old ones and set a sunset after which those old extensions will be removed. That would be a much easier sell than a 100% new graphics server.
This sort of "lets rewrite, and rewrite, and rewrite, ad infinitum" stuff is a major problem with the open source community. It leads to an enormous amount of wasted effort in an area where effort is always needed to address real problems around usability and hardware compatibility.
Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#29Unrelated to the fonts, but I really love that CSS they're using to emulate the ANSI interfaces of my youth. Perhaps it's just a product of my age, but I find it a lot more usable then a lot of similar website interfaces.
It's so incredibly easy to parse visually. I'm in heaven. The lime-green background for selected text adds a special touch! I wish there was a CSS framework for this type of UI language
There is bootstra.386 which put a smile on my face: https://kristopolous.github.io/BOOTSTRA.386/
Re: The Oldschool PC Font Pack v2.0
#30This led me on a short Google trip to find the Sun Openboot font: Finding this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/307356/what-is-the-... And this is the TTF of that font: https://github.com/Zygo/xscreensaver/blob/master/OSX/gallant...
Around 2000, I worked at Lucent, which was a Sun shop. But I can't remember this font. Was it only used on the console, i.e. in text mode?
If you booted single-user or didn't have a graphical login manager, you'd see this on the console on SunOS 4 and earlier (80s and 90s, pre-Solaris). I think by the time Solaris (or even open look) rolled around, it had a graphical user login.