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Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by stinos » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:34 AM UTC

Eyght wrote: post #10

On the subject of placebo technology. How well do HN think placebo software would work? An example would be a productivity app that only has a flip switch for High or Low productivity. Whenever you need to be extra productive, just open the app and set it to High.

This has actually been researched and the science is pretty clear on this one: the placebo effect is very real and does work. As a matter of fact IIRC (sorry, can't find the paper) some experiments with the principle as you describe have been done and came to that same conclusion.

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by contravariant » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:34 AM UTC

carlob wrote: post #12

I had this idea of starting a business selling homeopathic antidotes to vaccines. If anyone wants to partner up...

Being proper homeopathic antidotes I assume you'd be using trace amounts of the active, supposedly harmful, substance in vaccines?

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by dmix » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:34 AM UTC

Eyght wrote: post #10

On the subject of placebo technology. How well do HN think placebo software would work? An example would be a productivity app that only has a flip switch for High or Low productivity. Whenever you need to be extra productive, just open the app and set it to High.

> How well do HN think placebo software would work?

Would work at what? Make people 'happy'?

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by AstralStorm » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:35 AM UTC

SahAssar wrote: post #19

AstralStorm wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does claim, however, removing 5G waves. Which if true, would fall under radar jamming in FCC and be highly illegal. $50k fine. (Unless it is passive - aluminum foil or a mesh cage, which is perfectly legal.) Therefore it's false advertising.

Does it? All I can see on their site that implies blocking/jamming is "balance and harmonisation of the harmful effects of imbalanced electric radiation", which seems vague and pseudo-science-y enough to not break any laws.

But does it do that? If I put the device near test rats subject to really excess SAR, will it prevent them from being cooked?

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by heavenlyblue » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:35 AM UTC

SiempreViernes wrote: post #18

Eyght wrote: post #10

On the subject of placebo technology. How well do HN think placebo software would work? An example would be a productivity app that only has a flip switch for High or Low productivity. Whenever you need to be extra productive, just open the app and set it to High.

Would it add a slight matrix-style effect of symbols streaming down the screen? Or at least set the cpu fan to high?

Make the display brightness higher. Or rather sharpness, maybe?

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by AstralStorm » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:36 AM UTC

andreareina wrote: post #9

kozak wrote: post #2

How is it not illegal to sell these?

"These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA^H^H^H MHRA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease."

Radio waves are under the purview of FCC not FDA. (Unlike laser light.) MHRA has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Regulatory body in UK for radio waves is also separate from MHRA. I might be wrong there but I think it's CAA, while spectrum allocations are UK parliament.

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by comboy » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:37 AM UTC

Eyght wrote: post #10

On the subject of placebo technology. How well do HN think placebo software would work? An example would be a productivity app that only has a flip switch for High or Low productivity. Whenever you need to be extra productive, just open the app and set it to High.

It wouldn't be just placebo though. Clearly separating time when you want to be productive vs playing around is an old and effective trick.

Placebo apps that make your Internet faster are as old as the Internet itself though. I am guilty. In my defense, that was 20 years ago.

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by consp » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:37 AM UTC

AstralStorm wrote: post #15

woadwarrior01 wrote: post #5

What a lazy job! The least they could’ve done was to throw in a low frequency oscillator, to give it some credibility. Fighting high-frequencies with low. :) OTOH, the reasoning for poor construction of these devices is probably similar to the reasoning for poor English in 419 scam emails.

Having an oscillator on radio frequencies would require FCC stamp of approval.

Considering the same people who sell this crap online also sell stuff to force you to inhale ozone and carry radioactive materials on your chest as health items I do not think they care much about FCC approval

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by AstralStorm » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:40 AM UTC

consp wrote: post #28

AstralStorm wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having an oscillator on radio frequencies would require FCC stamp of approval.

Considering the same people who sell this crap online also sell stuff to force you to inhale ozone and carry radioactive materials on your chest as health items I do not think they care much about FCC approval

Free money from them. $50k per device.

Re: Unboxing a 5G Protection Device

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Post by metrokoi » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:40 AM UTC

AstralStorm wrote: post #17

metrokoi wrote: post #11

I wonder if there would be a market for actual electromagnetic shielding products, such as some sort of conductive paint for walls and ceilings? Of course, you could not use your phone or other devices, but it could be useful for the bedroom. A good way to have a guaranteed "do-not-disturb" zone as well!

Also a guaranteed way to be unable to call emergency. You better have a stationary wired phone line in there.

Of course. Although if one couldn't walk/crawl a few feet out of a bedroom for an emergency, they are probably unconscious or have a very large bedroom. I'm assuming the marketed consumer would have minimal usage of a cell phone anyway if they are concerned about electromagnetic radiation.