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Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by fzeroracer »

blisseyGo wrote: post #9

What's really happening is that these rioters (not the protestors) are watched trying to instigate violence at the protests and when they leave the area, they get arrested. This is because the local government has been absolutely useless at doing their job at stopping the rioting. Start at 9:30 timestamp: https://youtu.be/3ptD6koTknw?t=570 People sharing videos of this share either selectively edited videos without c…

None of what you said matters and here's why.

It doesn't matter who they're arresting and for what reason. They should announce who they are, using marked vehicles and properly arrest them if they have actually committed a crime.

Because otherwise, what's stopping someone from dressing up in military garb and straight up abducting someone? How do you know they're even part of the federal law enforcement and not actually someone taking advantage of the situation to commit crimes as well?

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by tehwebguy »

blisseyGo wrote: post #10
darksaints wrote: post #3

This sort of thing is terrifying to me. I've read a little bit about the Stasi, and back then the whole idea behind it seemed too absurd to believe. Now we're living it. If you question or protest the status quo, you are literally putting your life in danger.

These people are not protestors. There were rioters who would mix in with the protestors and then start violence. Protestors don't show up dressed in all black with a helmet and baseball bat. They have also been allowed to throw bricks, molotovs, bats etc on law enforcement and people. They are destroying the peaceful protests to turn them into violence. Local law enforcement hasn't been doing anything to stop it bec…

Local law enforcement have been arresting violent and non-violent protestors alike throughout the last few months, I’m not sure where you are getting the idea that they haven’t been.

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by blisseyGo »

ModernMech wrote: post #15
blisseyGo wrote: post #9

What's really happening is that these rioters (not the protestors) are watched trying to instigate violence at the protests and when they leave the area, they get arrested. This is because the local government has been absolutely useless at doing their job at stopping the rioting. Start at 9:30 timestamp: https://youtu.be/3ptD6koTknw?t=570 People sharing videos of this share either selectively edited videos without c…

Fta: “interviews conducted by OPB show officers are also detaining people on Portland streets who aren’t near federal property, nor is it clear that all of the people being arrested have engaged in criminal activity. Demonstrators like O’Shea and Pettibone said they think they were targeted by federal officers for simply wearing black clothing in the area of the demonstration.“

> who aren’t near federal property, nor is it clear that all of the people being arrested have engaged in criminal activity

That's misleading. They are being recorded while they are being violent within the peaceful protests. They are being arrested when they leave because Feds don't want to disrupt the peaceful protests - so they arrest them when they leave the area. I have watched a few videos of this happening and all of them have the person in not just all black but also with a helmet, tools to break windows and baseball bats.

Here's one example where the dude who got arrested has a helmet on. Why's that needed in peaceful protests? Also note the thing he has on his left side. That's an attachment to break car windows:

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1283452585945583618

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by blisseyGo »

tehwebguy wrote: post #22
blisseyGo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These people are not protestors. There were rioters who would mix in with the protestors and then start violence. Protestors don't show up dressed in all black with a helmet and baseball bat. They have also been allowed to throw bricks, molotovs, bats etc on law enforcement and people. They are destroying the peaceful protests to turn them into violence. Local law enforcement hasn't been doing anything to stop it bec…

Local law enforcement have been arresting violent and non-violent protestors alike throughout the last few months, I’m not sure where you are getting the idea that they haven’t been.

No. Local law enforcement is being handicapped by mayors and DAs who are letting go of the violent rioters free without any charges.

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by blisseyGo »

gruez wrote: post #19
blisseyGo wrote: post #9

What's really happening is that these rioters (not the protestors) are watched trying to instigate violence at the protests and when they leave the area, they get arrested. This is because the local government has been absolutely useless at doing their job at stopping the rioting. Start at 9:30 timestamp: https://youtu.be/3ptD6koTknw?t=570 People sharing videos of this share either selectively edited videos without c…

>People sharing videos of this share either selectively edited videos without context OR they only share the ending part where they are arrested and not the part where they were instigating violence in the peaceful protests. I'm not sure the video that you've linked is any better. It's basically someone dismissing it saying they were bad people who deserved it. It adds zero information.

Here's one example where the dude who got arrested has a helmet on. Why's that needed in peaceful protests? Also note the thing he has on his left side. That's an attachment to break car windows:

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1283452585945583618

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by xxpor »

mtgp1000 wrote: post #20
xxpor wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if I agree with your assessment, none of this excuses using unmarked vehicles, unmarked uniforms and not explaining themselves.

At some point people become enough of a liability that we collectively as a society have authorized the restriction of their rights. This is a literally subversive movement. I'm not exaggerating or choosing a side. Watch the livestreams yourself - these people explicitly seek to subvert, dismantle, and replace modern "power structures" (intentionally left vague). Whether you agree with what these people think they're…

Give me a break. These aren't the Bolsheviks fighting the white army.

The dude in the video was never told where he was or why he was arrested. He didn't know he was in the federal courthouse until after he was released.

These guys don't even have badges ffs. If someone shot these guys, I don't see how that wouldn't be considered self-defense.

Let's see what DHS is complaining about:

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/16/acting-secretary-wolf-co...

A lot of broken windows, graffiti and fireworks. Real insurrection. Raise the army. Prepare the nukes.

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by MengerSponge »

fzeroracer wrote: post #21
blisseyGo wrote: post #9

What's really happening is that these rioters (not the protestors) are watched trying to instigate violence at the protests and when they leave the area, they get arrested. This is because the local government has been absolutely useless at doing their job at stopping the rioting. Start at 9:30 timestamp: https://youtu.be/3ptD6koTknw?t=570 People sharing videos of this share either selectively edited videos without c…

None of what you said matters and here's why. It doesn't matter who they're arresting and for what reason. They should announce who they are, using marked vehicles and properly arrest them if they have actually committed a crime. Because otherwise, what's stopping someone from dressing up in military garb and straight up abducting someone? How do you know they're even part of the federal law enforcement and not actua…

There wasn't much time between channers "joking" about driving into protest crowds and Heather Heyer's murder. These auth-right goons have been "joking" about dropping people out of helicopters for years.

Re: Unidentified Federal Law Enforcement Detaining Protestors Without Explanation

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Post by blisseyGo »

jwilber wrote: post #18
blisseyGo wrote: post #9

What's really happening is that these rioters (not the protestors) are watched trying to instigate violence at the protests and when they leave the area, they get arrested. This is because the local government has been absolutely useless at doing their job at stopping the rioting. Start at 9:30 timestamp: https://youtu.be/3ptD6koTknw?t=570 People sharing videos of this share either selectively edited videos without c…

You say, “what’s really happening” and then follow up with generalizing all local governments as the same and all protestors as rioters, so I’ll assume your post isn’t very sincere. But I’d like a sincere response: What difference does it make what they did if they were apprehended by unidentifiable officers? That’s the topic at hand - the fact that police are apprehending people in ways that are not identifiably dif…

> all protestors as rioters

That's not what I meant when I said:

rioters (not the protestors)

I meant to say that a few violent people are sneaking into the protestors. By "not the protestors", I meant "I am not referring to the protestors".

By local government, I meant the mayor, the governor and the DA. Portland, Chicago has been this way for a long time.

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