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Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by coldtea »

magneticnorth wrote: post #7

Interesting that this is currently #1 on HN, but (as of right now) 100% of the comments are dismissive & derogatory. How does this happen? Is it just easier to leave a negative comment than to say something meaningful if you enjoyed the article?

>How does this happen? Is it just easier to leave a negative comment than to say something meaningful if you enjoyed the article?

For one, posts are often upvoted based on their title/subject, and only afterwards are read and evaluated for their content.

Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by commandlinefan »

"The importance of deep work" seems so fundamental that you'd think everybody would be aware of it by now - yet open offices are nearly universal (or at least were before this corona virus panic started). Is it that the people making the decisions genuinely don't understand "deep work", or that they think everybody can do their "deep work" for four years in college and be done with deep work for the rest of their lives?

Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by albntomat0 »

Topgamer7 wrote: post #15
ericsoderstrom wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's often the case with HN posts. I think people find an article valuable they simply upvote, but if people don't find an article valuable they leave a comment explaining why.

I find it more likely its either up-vote stuffing, or direct intervention from a HN moderator.

What's your reasoning?

Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by 101404 »

magneticnorth wrote: post #7

Interesting that this is currently #1 on HN, but (as of right now) 100% of the comments are dismissive & derogatory. How does this happen? Is it just easier to leave a negative comment than to say something meaningful if you enjoyed the article?

An upvote of a comment, too.

Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by have_faith »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #18

It's a nice site, and she does seem to be quite qualified. I applaud her drive to "give back." That said, I have found that I don't really need this, myself. That's mostly because I'm a bit "on the spectrum," and tend to drop into what I call my "fugue state." When I am in this state, I can churn out a vast amount of really good code, with almost no working documentation, as I can keep a fairly complex system in my h…

Sounds very similar to Hyperfocus[1] from the AD(H)D world which is something I became very interested in for a while. There are certain subjects that can sustain a state of hyperfocus for me and certain subjects that make me question if I'd had enough sleep. On the surface this sounds a bit psuedo-sciency as if asked anyone would say "yeah I also have things that interest me or don't..." but there's certainly something extra going on when you experience it first hand.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperfocus

Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

have_faith wrote: post #25
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #18

It's a nice site, and she does seem to be quite qualified. I applaud her drive to "give back." That said, I have found that I don't really need this, myself. That's mostly because I'm a bit "on the spectrum," and tend to drop into what I call my "fugue state." When I am in this state, I can churn out a vast amount of really good code, with almost no working documentation, as I can keep a fairly complex system in my h…

Sounds very similar to Hyperfocus[1] from the AD(H)D world which is something I became very interested in for a while. There are certain subjects that can sustain a state of hyperfocus for me and certain subjects that make me question if I'd had enough sleep. On the surface this sounds a bit psuedo-sciency as if asked anyone would say "yeah I also have things that interest me or don't..." but there's certainly someth…

Well, there's reason that there's so many programmers with at least mild autism. One of the symptoms is obsessive focus. Can work wonders in coding.

Otherwise, I tend to ignore most of these "connect to your inner power" things.

I don't dispute their validity (usually), and have friends that have done things like the Tony Robbins courses and Lifespring, and whatnot. It seems to have helped them. It's just not the way I feel like going.

I do have a personal process that depends on a fairly rigorous self-discipline. Not many "shortcuts." Does seem to work.

Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by jonpurdy »

commandlinefan wrote: post #22

"The importance of deep work" seems so fundamental that you'd think everybody would be aware of it by now - yet open offices are nearly universal (or at least were before this corona virus panic started). Is it that the people making the decisions genuinely don't understand "deep work", or that they think everybody can do their "deep work" for four years in college and be done with deep work for the rest of their liv…

In my experience, the people making those decisions are aware of the benefits of deep work. But optimizing for it has commonly been a lower priority than other things like the ability to drop in and interrupt developers since that directly benefits them immediately.

Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by cellularmitosis »

audiometry wrote: post #4

These articles are derivatives of derivatives. They become very tedious and repetitive.

A substance-less complaint can become both helpful and a more honest critique simply by including a link to something less derivative.

Re: Deep Work and the 30-Hour Method for Learning a New Skill (2018)

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Post by magneticnorth »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #20
burkaman wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Positive comments that don't "add any value" are heavily discouraged on HN. Unless you have some deep expertise or experience that you can use to expand on the article, it's usually best to not comment. Negative comments that don't add value are not viewed the same way for some reason.

On the other hand I view a comment after down-vote with the reason, crucial for constructive criticism.

That makes sense. Downvotes here seem to be more meaningful than in most other forums.
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