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IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

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Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#21
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

I look forward. Is there a twitterfeed / alert mailing list?

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#22
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

I'd very much consider uploading a few of mine to that service, it's hard to justify what the IEEE deems as reasonable. Heck I don't even get access to my own papers.

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#23
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

The problem that needs to be solved isn't distribution, it's how to transition the traditional model of peer-review into one with much less overhead. Building a web app to allow researchers to submit their articles and have them peer-reviewed by other researchers would be an interesting project that could actually disrupt the industry. I don't think things like arXiv do that yet.

Your project seems disruptive and may cause people to talk about the issue but it doesn't solve anything, as it just undermines the system that is producing the very journals you are exposing. The same way Napster didn't solve the dependency between musicians and outdated industry business models, it just exposed how the models were outdated.

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#24
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

I look forward. Is there a twitterfeed / alert mailing list?

No yet, but once it launches, you'll know. :-)

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#25
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

How are you doing this? Citeseer caches the free versions people upload to their personal sites, so they're already making a clearing house for papers that skirts the legality.

I am guessing you're crawling from behind some library account, but I'm not entirely sure how you'd be avoiding detection from the local library (assuming, perhaps wrongly, reasonable comp sec competency).

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#26
post #23
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

The problem that needs to be solved isn't distribution, it's how to transition the traditional model of peer-review into one with much less overhead. Building a web app to allow researchers to submit their articles and have them peer-reviewed by other researchers would be an interesting project that could actually disrupt the industry. I don't think things like arXiv do that yet. Your project seems disruptive and may…

> Building a web app to allow researchers to submit their articles and have them peer-reviewed by other researchers would be an interesting project that could actually disrupt the industry.

True, but the chicken and egg problem prevents that from taking off: researchers submit to the highest impact journal they can get the article in, not the open access journals. Similarly, they won't submit their articles to such a service until it is already well established.

I'm hoping that bringing the problem to light will provide an impetus to evolve to a better system.

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#27
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

How are you doing this? Citeseer caches the free versions people upload to their personal sites, so they're already making a clearing house for papers that skirts the legality. I am guessing you're crawling from behind some library account, but I'm not entirely sure how you'd be avoiding detection from the local library (assuming, perhaps wrongly, reasonable comp sec competency).

Yes, that's essentially it...

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#28
post #4

I have a counter-suggestion: pay $3000 to support one of the open access journals (see The Directory of Open Access Journals " http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=home&uiLanguage=en for suggestions) and they'll let you post as many articles as you want. (Of course, I believe most of them will let you post for free, but by contributing articles and money to open access journals, you get to stick it to IEEE twice).

So... how is the tenure committee going to do with the fact that you have nothing in peer-reviewed journals?

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#29
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

How are you doing this? Citeseer caches the free versions people upload to their personal sites, so they're already making a clearing house for papers that skirts the legality. I am guessing you're crawling from behind some library account, but I'm not entirely sure how you'd be avoiding detection from the local library (assuming, perhaps wrongly, reasonable comp sec competency).

Maybe it will work like RECAP does for PACER. https://www.recapthelaw.org/ Basically, a bunch of libraries and schools who already have access will grab the articles and send them to the free archive. Of course the legal implications were less intimidating, since the documents (court records) in PACER are in the public domain and they only charge a processing fee.

Re: IEEE: Pay $3000 and we'll remove your article's paywall.

#30
post #23
post #15

This kind of gouging soon won't be a problem anymore. I'm in the process of creating an online service (launch date sometime this summer) that will provide completely free full-text access to all academic journals in one fell swoop. Think Napster for academic research. I won't give implementation details for now, and I'm still evaluating different domain names, but it will be called Acropolis. Yes, I know it will cre…

The problem that needs to be solved isn't distribution, it's how to transition the traditional model of peer-review into one with much less overhead. Building a web app to allow researchers to submit their articles and have them peer-reviewed by other researchers would be an interesting project that could actually disrupt the industry. I don't think things like arXiv do that yet. Your project seems disruptive and may…

We've seen Zotero and Mendeley trying to offer a platform for that (unconvincingly if you ask me); from mass adoption of those, points for good comments can be awarded to incite proper behaviour (reddit, HNews and Quora are here to attest it works, and abuses and their proper correction are well typed); I'm expecting the Livfe extention of Mekentojs' Paper 2 to come closer to something usable.
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