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Google has ticked off IBM, Oracle, and many in the open-source world

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Re: Google has ticked off IBM, Oracle, and many in the open-source world

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Post by fierarul »

Tempest in a teapot. What's wrong with competing open source foundations? Wrong people on the board?!

I find this supremely rich considering OpenJDK is 100% Oracle and not under the wing of any foundation. So much for open governance. Of course OpenJDK as an internal Oracle project has some hybrid imaginary "board" where Oracle has 2 of the 5 seats by default and you need 4 votes to veto something (which means, no dice without Oracle).

IBM of all should be used to fork projects just to control the pace and trademark. See the recent GraalVM fork (made by RedHat).

Re: Google has ticked off IBM, Oracle, and many in the open-source world

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Post by snarfy »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #6
sixhobbits wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so. But please don't post complaints about paywalls. Those are off topic."

If we complain enough about paywalls, the guidelines will change.

After being on here for 10 years, I have zero expectations that policy will ever change. I see you've been on here quite a while yourself. I don't have that kind of hope anymore.

Websites pay each other for Referer hits. It may or may not be true that HN gets money for paywall stories, but I don't see any ads on HN, do you? Do you ever notice paywalled stories staying on the front page longer even when they have few upvotes?

Re: Google has ticked off IBM, Oracle, and many in the open-source world

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Post by nix23 »

nix23 wrote: post #20
prepend wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think I’ve ever been to business insider and I had a subscriber blocker pop up instead of the article.

NO i mean when different ip's in a short time go to the Article with out reading it (login), they open the paywall so that they can 'hide' the paywall, a still be linked to sites like HN. Why the down-vote? I have uBlock and Privacy Badger and no login at businessinsider and i see no paywall. Proof: https://imgur.com/a/53MNorf EDIT: Nice i see! Everyone mentioned 'paywall' got a Down-vote @HN maybe wanna block that p…

Test mentioning 'paywall'

Re: Google has ticked off IBM, Oracle, and many in the open-source world

#25

Post by nix23 »

nix23 wrote: post #20
prepend wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think I’ve ever been to business insider and I had a subscriber blocker pop up instead of the article.

NO i mean when different ip's in a short time go to the Article with out reading it (login), they open the paywall so that they can 'hide' the paywall, a still be linked to sites like HN. Why the down-vote? I have uBlock and Privacy Badger and no login at businessinsider and i see no paywall. Proof: https://imgur.com/a/53MNorf EDIT: Nice i see! Everyone mentioned 'paywall' got a Down-vote @HN maybe wanna block that p…

Test mentioning 'pafwall' ;)

Re: Google has ticked off IBM, Oracle, and many in the open-source world

#26

Post by tomComb »

fierarul wrote: post #21

Tempest in a teapot. What's wrong with competing open source foundations? Wrong people on the board?! I find this supremely rich considering OpenJDK is 100% Oracle and not under the wing of any foundation. So much for open governance. Of course OpenJDK as an internal Oracle project has some hybrid imaginary "board" where Oracle has 2 of the 5 seats by default and you need 4 votes to veto something (which means, no di…

This is about pushing Google too live up to its commitments, and to its reputation as one of the biggest supporters of open source.

Comparing it to Oracle (or AWS etc) is a bit of a red herring as they are no friends to open source and make no bones about being ruthlessly out for themselves.

Re: Google has ticked off IBM, Oracle, and many in the open-source world

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Post by fierarul »

tomComb wrote: post #26
fierarul wrote: post #21

Tempest in a teapot. What's wrong with competing open source foundations? Wrong people on the board?! I find this supremely rich considering OpenJDK is 100% Oracle and not under the wing of any foundation. So much for open governance. Of course OpenJDK as an internal Oracle project has some hybrid imaginary "board" where Oracle has 2 of the 5 seats by default and you need 4 votes to veto something (which means, no di…

This is about pushing Google too live up to its commitments, and to its reputation as one of the biggest supporters of open source. Comparing it to Oracle (or AWS etc) is a bit of a red herring as they are no friends to open source and make no bones about being ruthlessly out for themselves.

As an outsider all I see is political struggle of the kind corporations create.

As an user of open source I don't see why I would be stressed out this project didn't land under the stewardship of CNCF, a foundation created just 5 years ago.

Re: Google has ticked off IBM, Oracle, and many in the open-source world

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Post by hbogert »

consumer451 wrote: post #14
pndy wrote: post #9

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> Annoying paywall, how is businessinsider.com even allowed on HN nowadays? Just a "funny" thing to share: because of adblocking extensions I'm unable load any of their articles - whatever I click from BI, no matter if it's US or Polish version, I'm getting 404.

I have my iOS Safari set to display webpages in Reader View by default. Among the benefits is that BI’s paywall is avoided. I imagine that Reader Mode would also work for this purpose on Firefox desktop. Also, I have Firefox Focus set as a Safari content blocker and have no issues.

If you're fast enough to click the reader button, the paywall is indeed omitted
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