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DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Re: DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Post by djeiasbsbo »

raffraffraff wrote: post #13

Now they can have awful search results again. I would love to be able to say "use ddg, they respect your privacy and they're almost as good as Google" but several times today I got mind-bogglingly bad results from it. Same search in Google... Yes, these are the results I was looking for. What's really odd is that i reran one of those searches just now and the results aren't actually as bad. Super confused.

I would like to recommend this to you: https://searx.space.

I have been getting great results across many instances! And while we're at it, also check out these projects:

https://github.com/omarroth/invidious

https://github.com/zedeus/nitter

Re: DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Post by econcon »

chopraaa wrote: post #9

DDG was blocked for the past several days. The issue came up on /r/duckduckgo and /r/india, following which the Internet Freedom Foundation wrote to the Department of Telecom [1] DDG is working for me again (it's my default search engine) so that's a relief. In the past, the government or the ISPs in India have nonchalantly blocked several websites and even NSFW sub-reddits. The IFF even has a dump of blocking orders…

Those who are tired of government blocking, make a $5 droplet in Germany or Netherlands and set wireguard.

When I was in India, I was getting much better speed on vpn compared to direct connection. How can this be possible? Page loads appeared significantly faster through digital ocean server.

I was under impression, VPN adds overhead and reduces speed?.

I often do market research and blocking gets in way, I can decide what website is good for me what isn't. Government shouldn't have any say in that.

Re: DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Post by kdrag0n »

econcon wrote: post #22
chopraaa wrote: post #9

DDG was blocked for the past several days. The issue came up on /r/duckduckgo and /r/india, following which the Internet Freedom Foundation wrote to the Department of Telecom [1] DDG is working for me again (it's my default search engine) so that's a relief. In the past, the government or the ISPs in India have nonchalantly blocked several websites and even NSFW sub-reddits. The IFF even has a dump of blocking orders…

Those who are tired of government blocking, make a $5 droplet in Germany or Netherlands and set wireguard. When I was in India, I was getting much better speed on vpn compared to direct connection. How can this be possible? Page loads appeared significantly faster through digital ocean server. I was under impression, VPN adds overhead and reduces speed?. I often do market research and blocking gets in way, I can deci…

I've heard that many ISPs in India have bad routing, which probably explains what you experienced. That's why services with local servers in India (e.g. Cloudflare WARP+) can have the same effect.

Re: DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Post by drdeca »

extro wrote: post #25

DDG financially supports the antifa movement. You maybe want to reconsider its use.

Eh? Is there a particular organization that you are claiming they financially support? Like, a specific place they are sending money to? I’m not sure what you mean exactly.

Re: DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Post by extro »

drdeca wrote: post #26
extro wrote: post #25

DDG financially supports the antifa movement. You maybe want to reconsider its use.

Eh? Is there a particular organization that you are claiming they financially support? Like, a specific place they are sending money to? I’m not sure what you mean exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wePMUqnBn0

Re: DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Post by mukuz »

anonms-coward wrote: post #8
bgdam wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much. In addition there is no real enforcement to see that only the sites requested are blocked. And ISPs (Jio especially) have started taking creative license with block orders. For a lot of ISPs this blocking is implemented at DNS resolution level, which is easy to bypass (just change your DNS resolver), but the most popular ISP (Jio) does not do it this way, and is pretty much impossible to get around.

How does Jio do it? Would encrypted SNI help in thwarting that?

Jio uses DNS sniffing and SNI blocking.

They monitor all DNS requests(no matter who provides the DNS server). So the solution is DNS over HTTPS.

The SNI method is a bit tricky. ESNI does prevent the blocking, but currently it’s rarely implemented by websites. One other solution is TCP fragmentation. Split the packet containing SNI into two. This prevents them from catching the whole URL mentioned in the SNI. Thus, they are unable to block it.

One such tool: https://github.com/SadeghHayeri/GreenTunnel

Re: DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Post by BelleOfTheBall »

sandworm101 wrote: post #20
BelleOfTheBall wrote: post #3

It's quite scary to think that some countries can just instantly axe access to important services like that. This time it was, supposedly, a mistake. What if next time they decide to block Wikipedia or something like that? I know they tried to block Telegram before the citizens pushed back.

>> can just instantly axe access to important services like that. It isn't that simple. Just look at China. To enforce their internet censorship they have to spend billions on a massive technological complex. But the locals still know how to get around it when necessary. Once upon a time TOR was a complicated little tool requiring multiple layers of software to run properly. Now The Tor Browser is an app that any kid…

Yeah, but the majority that actually get around it are those who are already not supporting the government. Millions of others are being brainwashed by the state limiting data. It's an awful implication, considering how vital the internet is to modern life.

Re: DuckDuckGo coming back online in India following country-wide block

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Post by drdeca »

extro wrote: post #27
drdeca wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh? Is there a particular organization that you are claiming they financially support? Like, a specific place they are sending money to? I’m not sure what you mean exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wePMUqnBn0

Judging from the video description, while I would read a text based version, I don't respect the source enough to be willing to watch a video of it. Videos suck as a way to answer simple questions with simple answers. They are an absolutely terrible medium for that.

Can you instead answer the simple question : "What is the name of the legal entity which you allege duck duck go is providing money to, and which you identify as "antifa" ?

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