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Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

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Re: Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

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Looks like a glitch (as the reddit thread indicates). DDG works fine on BSNL. Note that r/India is very intolerant of views which are pro-India, and has consequently become an echo chamber for endia folk. I'd take anything coming out of this subred with a bucket of salt.

Pro-India is not the same as Pro-Modi

Re: Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The URL blocking for the major part is ordered by courts and not the government I can't speak to TRAI and DOT involvement, but the statement that courts are not part of the "government" is an over-technical definition centered around Parliamentary technicalities that happen to use the word, and of limited utility here. The courts are very much part of the apparatus which governs the people of a nation.

I see where you are coming from but the distinction is important because a lot of times these discussions are followed up by discussion about voting for certain political parties with suggestions of one political party banning/censoring more than other political parties. If one doesn't focus on the exact points of change where it's possible, complaining against the "big government" is going to be a very slow process…

Some group presumably passed the laws the court is enforcing? (Unless they're interpretting the constitution to require blocking DDG, I dunno). Seems like you would want to vote against those people if this is your important issue.

Re: Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there is a ruling body known as TRAI / DOT which doesn't care to explain the rationale behind any of their decisions for blocking / banning etc. This is a big misconception in India. The URL blocking for the major part is ordered by courts and not the government - https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/ban-porn-sit...

> The URL blocking for the major part is ordered by courts and not the government I can't speak to TRAI and DOT involvement, but the statement that courts are not part of the "government" is an over-technical definition centered around Parliamentary technicalities that happen to use the word, and of limited utility here. The courts are very much part of the apparatus which governs the people of a nation.

Courts do function independently of the government. The constitution also confers enormous powers over them, so much that contempt of court is exempt from Freedom of speech.

Re: Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

#25
post #11

Looks like a glitch (as the reddit thread indicates). DDG works fine on BSNL. Note that r/India is very intolerant of views which are pro-India, and has consequently become an echo chamber for endia folk. I'd take anything coming out of this subred with a bucket of salt.

The fact that it works on BSNL means absolutely nothing. The implementation of blocking across ISPs is extremely inconsistent: https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.08590 > Note that r/India is very intolerant of views which are pro-India /r/india heavily skews liberal and anti-Modi. That is not the same thing as being intolerant of pro-India views.

> The fact that it works on BSNL means absolutely nothing.

It means absolutely everything when 'evil intentions' are being imputed. BSNL being a PSU is a good litmus test for this.

> /r/india heavily skews liberal and anti-Modi. That is not the same thing as being intolerant of pro-India views.

It's certainly very liberal in banning people whose views goes against those held by the mods (one of whom is apparently Pakistani). Little wonder r/indiadiscussions is filled with complaints about the blatant censorship over at r/india.

Re: Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

#26
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that it works on BSNL means absolutely nothing. The implementation of blocking across ISPs is extremely inconsistent: https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.08590 > Note that r/India is very intolerant of views which are pro-India /r/india heavily skews liberal and anti-Modi. That is not the same thing as being intolerant of pro-India views.

> The fact that it works on BSNL means absolutely nothing. It means absolutely everything when 'evil intentions' are being imputed. BSNL being a PSU is a good litmus test for this. > /r/india heavily skews liberal and anti-Modi. That is not the same thing as being intolerant of pro-India views. It's certainly very liberal in banning people whose views goes against those held by the mods (one of whom is apparently Pak…

> BSNL being a PSU is a good litmus test for this.

Yes, because our PSUs and especially BSNL are renouned for being agile and technically competent.

> one of whom is apparently Pakistani

I heard they are a Vatican funded Naxali CIA front.

Re: Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

#27

Looks like a glitch (as the reddit thread indicates). DDG works fine on BSNL. Note that r/India is very intolerant of views which are pro-India, and has consequently become an echo chamber for endia folk. I'd take anything coming out of this subred with a bucket of salt.

Pro-India is not the same as Pro-Modi

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Re: Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

#28
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The fact that it works on BSNL means absolutely nothing. It means absolutely everything when 'evil intentions' are being imputed. BSNL being a PSU is a good litmus test for this. > /r/india heavily skews liberal and anti-Modi. That is not the same thing as being intolerant of pro-India views. It's certainly very liberal in banning people whose views goes against those held by the mods (one of whom is apparently Pak…

> BSNL being a PSU is a good litmus test for this. Yes, because our PSUs and especially BSNL are renouned for being agile and technically competent. > one of whom is apparently Pakistani I heard they are a Vatican funded Naxali CIA front.

> Yes, because our PSUs and especially BSNL are renouned for being agile and technically competent.

Yes because clearly, a company which runs a large fraction of the national telephony/internet network, and regularly injects obnoxious ads into plain HTTP pages, can't find it within its abilities to write a few simple DNS/firewall rules, simply because some 'woke' dude on the intertubes will wake up to the 'evil plans' of the Gobermint.

Keep wallowing in your 'conspiracy' theories my dude.

Re: Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India

#29

India, ruled by some big(!) heads who doesn't understand a dot in technology. They are governed by impulsive decisions of the policy makers and it's a name sake democracy. No real freedom of speech is allowed there AFAIK. Govt / Private / Policing is just too much and a lot of gag order as well. They just can't stand anything and consequences could cost a life too! Technology is being used by most of the population w…

TRAI does come under RTI. Any instance of them denying a RTI request?

I believe RTI has become dysfunctional in India. That's what the recent news is. Most of the RTI requests are being denied citing national security (!!) or things alike. I'm not sure about it though.
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