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It's not like anyone will listen anyway, but it's a nice thought...
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Hopefully this undermines your belief that technical people are in some way immune to all the biases, emotions, fears, hopes and general humanity of people at large. Frequently, they're worse; they believe themselves to be hyper-rational cyborgs driven purely by evidence, giving themselves carte blanche to assume they're unaffected and thus don't even need to examine their own thinking. Yes, I too am a mental mess an…
The person you are approvingly replying to is overconfident and wrong.
They don’t mention hospitalization or deaths. Those are the two to keep track of. I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers.
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-daily-new-covid-...
I have to say, living in NYC I'm pretty thankful for the quarantine requirement from anyone coming in from outside the tri-state area. I like to at least think we're on the downswing, although who really knows. It's not like anyone will listen anyway, but it's a nice thought...
Multiple angles are hard.
For the love of God. Texas didn't have an outbreak when they shutdown! Nor did Oregon, or California. That is the difference. All of Europe shut down _after the virus had already grown exponentially_ in most places. We shut down Oregon when there were fewer than 100 cases. After three months of being shut down in Oregon the curve had nowhere to go but up!
What in the hell did people expect? We shut down before there is spread, wait three months and then reopen. How is that a plan? Did anyone really expect that places where shutdowns were early and strong would somehow come out unscathed?
It has been true since day 1. You either need to shut down HARD until there is a vaccine (not possible, not sustainable, more deaths caused by this) or you deal with the surge of cases and do your best to protect the elderly/vulnerable.
What you don't do is panic, shut down too early, burn through all your money and political capital, reopen and then be all "golly gee there are cases now!". If we had waited until there was growth in cases, we could shutdown and actually flatten the curve enough to handle the shock to the system.
It is so. damn. frustrating. that this isn't more obvious to people. What materially changed between today and March 1?
Lockdowns where a bad idea from there start as there is no way to continue them until there is a vaccine.
I am very curious to see if NY and the other early hot spots avoid a resurgence like Europe has. That is what I am most interested now. If they do, perhaps the folks who are talking about cross-reactive immunity are on to something.
We. Shut. Down. Too. Early. In. Most. Places. For the love of God. Texas didn't have an outbreak when they shutdown! Nor did Oregon, or California. That is the difference. All of Europe shut down _after the virus had already grown exponentially_ in most places. We shut down Oregon when there were fewer than 100 cases. After three months of being shut down in Oregon the curve had nowhere to go but up! What in the hell…
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The deaths are increasing too. 2500+ people passed away yesterday (June 25) in the US.
From all causes? Covid number is lower https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/