There used to be a big Python/Perl debate. I'm not sure I could have predicted how well that would turn out for Python, and how poorly for Perl. Readability and ease of use matters?
Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
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Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#22Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#23They last line of the article summarizes it well: > Perl 7 is v5.32 with different settings. Your code should work if it’s not a mess. Expect a user release within a year. Are there actually people that are still deploying new things in Perl? The only times I see it is for legacy stuff, and then only because the script is too much of a hassle to be rewritten.
yes, definitely. If you are manipulating text, Perl is great.
Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#24I was part of a team that wrote significant parts of Amazon's payment processing systems in Perl in the late 90s. I really loved the language. It's object system was so flexible and powerful. Once you understood how write idiomatic perl. It was a joy to use. I'm looking forward to trying out Perl 7.
Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#25tl;dr - Perl 7.0 is going to be v5.32 but with different, saner, more modern defaults.
Perl was great 20 years ago for basic scripts. Where is it still used today who hasn't transitioned to Python/etc?
Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#26There used to be a big Python/Perl debate. I'm not sure I could have predicted how well that would turn out for Python, and how poorly for Perl. Readability and ease of use matters?
I think it was really Perl 6 that killed it. Perl had a significant lead over Python, and the Perl 6 announcement just sucked the life out of it.
Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#27They last line of the article summarizes it well: > Perl 7 is v5.32 with different settings. Your code should work if it’s not a mess. Expect a user release within a year. Are there actually people that are still deploying new things in Perl? The only times I see it is for legacy stuff, and then only because the script is too much of a hassle to be rewritten.
I used to work for a company that used Perl as their primary language.
The codebase was millions of lines long, modules (pm files) with like 1000 methods and 10,000 lines, a total mess and it had 0 unit tests too. Almost beyond salvageable. Left a bit of a sour taste.
They're trying to migrate to AWS but AWS don't even natively support Perl in their libraries. There's a few third party libraries in CPAN but nothing as comprehensive as what's available with official libraries for other languages.
Nothing against the language but I don't know why you wouldn't use literally anything else nowadays. Python or PHP, JavaScript or even Ruby if you're looking for a dynamically typed language. AWS don't even support Perl.
Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do. Efficient, cheap and stable. Ported to about everywhere.
What do you mean by efficient and cheap? It doesn't fare well in https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... at least.
Nodejs is very fast, because it uses an an engine that has had multiple millions of dollars thrown at it to make it fast. Most interpreted languages don't fare well against it.
Perl fares somewhat favorably against Python, Ruby and PHP though. Those are what I would consider equivalent languages to compare against to get a general idea of its speed.
Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#29They last line of the article summarizes it well: > Perl 7 is v5.32 with different settings. Your code should work if it’s not a mess. Expect a user release within a year. Are there actually people that are still deploying new things in Perl? The only times I see it is for legacy stuff, and then only because the script is too much of a hassle to be rewritten.
I used to work for a company that used Perl as their primary language. The codebase was millions of lines long, modules (pm files) with like 1000 methods and 10,000 lines, a total mess and it had 0 unit tests too. Almost beyond salvageable. Left a bit of a sour taste. They're trying to migrate to AWS but AWS don't even natively support Perl in their libraries. There's a few third party libraries in CPAN but nothing a…
Your opinion on Perl is based on one code base you worked at on one job?
Re: Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly
#30They last line of the article summarizes it well: > Perl 7 is v5.32 with different settings. Your code should work if it’s not a mess. Expect a user release within a year. Are there actually people that are still deploying new things in Perl? The only times I see it is for legacy stuff, and then only because the script is too much of a hassle to be rewritten.
Yep, I know of one company still actively using Perl for a large part of its infrastructure. It has its use cases.
are the use cases all really really fancy regexes?