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Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by cmdshiftf4 »

> Appeal to authority with internet points

> Moan that HN won't support you spilling your politics that already fill your twitter feed over into the site, despite many alternatives existing

> Recognize it's a free site and it can do what it wants

> Assert it's wrong, and doing wrong, by disagreeing with you, that voice of karma-provided authority

> Post your Twitter rant to HN for attention

> HN democratically removes your rant

> Whimper on Twitter that HN, the site you're apparently done with, aren't facilitating your anti-HN rants, implicitly encouraging your following to do some bandwagoning

God only knows what drama this person would be capable of if HN kowtowed and facilitated their self-approved topics for discussion.

Why ask for Reddit 2.0 when you can just stick to Reddit.com?

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by yongjik »

Not sure why anybody's upset that HN didn't have much discussion on, above anything, George Floyd. HN discourages (and always discouraged) "me too" style remarks, like "Oh that's awful", "that's outrageous", or "that's gross injustice!" But exactly what other reasonable opinions are available here?

I mean, would you want to see people discussing here whether Derek Chauvin was justified in killing George Floyd? Because I don't.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by bichiliad »

yongjik wrote: post #22

Not sure why anybody's upset that HN didn't have much discussion on, above anything, George Floyd. HN discourages (and always discouraged) "me too" style remarks, like "Oh that's awful", "that's outrageous", or "that's gross injustice!" But exactly what other reasonable opinions are available here? I mean, would you want to see people discussing here whether Derek Chauvin was justified in killing George Floyd? Becaus…

I think there's a lot more to discuss other than Derek Chauvin's culpability. HN is full of really bright people; I'd love to hear what they think about tech's role in enabling police brutality like this to exist, and what is in our capacity to do to help solve the problem.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by yongjik »

bichiliad wrote: post #23
yongjik wrote: post #22

Not sure why anybody's upset that HN didn't have much discussion on, above anything, George Floyd. HN discourages (and always discouraged) "me too" style remarks, like "Oh that's awful", "that's outrageous", or "that's gross injustice!" But exactly what other reasonable opinions are available here? I mean, would you want to see people discussing here whether Derek Chauvin was justified in killing George Floyd? Becaus…

I think there's a lot more to discuss other than Derek Chauvin's culpability. HN is full of really bright people; I'd love to hear what they think about tech's role in enabling police brutality like this to exist, and what is in our capacity to do to help solve the problem.

And if I search for "police" I see 5 discussions with 100+ comments in the past week alone! So I think there's a lot of discussion regarding police brutality, just not about Floyd's murder itself. (Well, I guess some people might wish HN had even more discussion on police brutality, but we're veering into meta-meta-discussion.)

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by hckr_news »

idiocratic wrote: post #11
asveikau wrote: post #2

On some of those peak days of BLM protests, I came on here and it was like the whole thing wasn't happening. It did seem strange. If nothing else people here should stop pretending they're above the zeitgeist. How many others remember the slashdot threads on 9/11, for example? This is a big defining moment in our times worth more conscious observance. Tech cares too.

Maybe HN (and the web) has become less US-centric and more global? In Europe the issue is marginal to say the least, in Asia I believe they don't even consider it news-worthy, and so on. The opposite of "defining" for most of the planet.

Weren’t Europeans on the street marching in solidarity? I wouldn’t dismiss it entirely as a US issue.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by hckr_news »

_8j50 wrote: post #18

Oh wow, this made it to the front page and it just got flagged! I was going to say how i really don't care about mainstream news topics worming their way to HN but man, this is crazy. I understand downvotes and bans but flagging this and shadowbans are hitting below the belt. Is this site for the intellectually dishonest? If not this b.s. needs to stop. How many "I quit facebook" posts make it to the front page all t…

Unfortunately users will flag content they don’t like.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by _y5hn »

asveikau wrote: post #2

On some of those peak days of BLM protests, I came on here and it was like the whole thing wasn't happening. It did seem strange. If nothing else people here should stop pretending they're above the zeitgeist. How many others remember the slashdot threads on 9/11, for example? This is a big defining moment in our times worth more conscious observance. Tech cares too.

HN is heavily moderated by users and mods, so you get to see what content according to site policy, mostly.

If you want all the stories, there's https://hckrnews.com/ sorted by time. Lots of politics gets through enough to follow the zeitgeist, without getting forever lost, like this guy.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by _y5hn »

hckr_news wrote: post #25
idiocratic wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe HN (and the web) has become less US-centric and more global? In Europe the issue is marginal to say the least, in Asia I believe they don't even consider it news-worthy, and so on. The opposite of "defining" for most of the planet.

Weren’t Europeans on the street marching in solidarity? I wouldn’t dismiss it entirely as a US issue.

Global solidarity demos against racism gets lost on US-only centrism.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by _y5hn »

conductr wrote: post #10
asveikau wrote: post #2

On some of those peak days of BLM protests, I came on here and it was like the whole thing wasn't happening. It did seem strange. If nothing else people here should stop pretending they're above the zeitgeist. How many others remember the slashdot threads on 9/11, for example? This is a big defining moment in our times worth more conscious observance. Tech cares too.

I noticed the silence of HN too. Was looking for some level headed discussions on the topic. Then what I recalled was around March onset of shutdown, HN was posting some things about funding startups in the space (being part of the covid solution). I was expecting to see something similar for startups that could improve race relations in some way, was interested in how technology/startups could be a part of the solut…

For the boring technical solution, read https://hckrnews.com/ . There's loads of political posts on HN.
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