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1994 conservatives: "Magic is Satanic" 2020 liberals: "Magic is Racist" I guess "protection from black" is the next /s https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3A%2...
Political correctness keeps finding new old, trivial things to retroactively demonize as "racist." At this rate, because one person maybe offended somewhere, all art must be destroyed, and making or possessing art will be punishable by death. "No singing either! Burn the racist heretic!" Has anyone ever surveyed actual gypsies to ask them if they find art in a card game fictional universe to negatively portray them?…
Why make real lasting change when you could instead ruin a children's card game?
Besides -- most of the cards being removed had already been out of print since the 1990s. They were effectively irrelevant to most players.
Paraphrasing, Cleanse removes all black creatures, including foul beats etc This seems to point at a bigger issue where the black creatures are considered foul?
Black creatures are "death" creatures, and are things like "Demonic Tutor", "Dark Ritual", "Rune-Scarred Demon"... Demons and vampires and zombies and things like that. The use of "Black" as a stand-in for nefarious things is its own problem, but it does not refer the the color of skin in any way in MTG.
It seems to me that there are two distinct types of cards being banned here: cards that actually have real-world racist connatations (Invoke Prejudice, Jihad, Stone-Throwing devils, Pradesh Gypsies), and cards that have unfortunate wording when read by someone who doesn't play the game (Crusade, Cleanse). I'm glad they're taking a stand on the former, but the latter seems rather silly. I'm no Magic expert, but black…
What is the racist connotation of Stone-Throwing devils? Btw, if Pradesh Gypsies is racist, we better start torching a ton of Marvel comics - Dr. Doom is a gypsy and all the (often excellent) stories around his background use the exact same imagery, all the way to the cyberpunk Doom 2099.
Political correctness keeps finding new old, trivial things to retroactively demonize as "racist." At this rate, because one person maybe offended somewhere, all art must be destroyed, and making or possessing art will be punishable by death. "No singing either! Burn the racist heretic!" Has anyone ever surveyed actual gypsies to ask them if they find art in a card game fictional universe to negatively portray them?…
Paraphrasing, Cleanse removes all black creatures, including foul beats etc This seems to point at a bigger issue where the black creatures are considered foul?
>This seems to point at a bigger issue where the black creatures are considered foul? Likely in part due to J.R.R. Tolkien's influence on Western fantasy archetypes. Almost invariably, his books equate light skin with purity, civilization and goodness, and dark skin with corruption, barbarism and evil. Not to say that he was racist in the same way as H.P. Lovecraft was when writing about fish-men from Innsmouth as a…
Paraphrasing, Cleanse removes all black creatures, including foul beats etc This seems to point at a bigger issue where the black creatures are considered foul?
>This seems to point at a bigger issue where the black creatures are considered foul? Likely in part due to J.R.R. Tolkien's influence on Western fantasy archetypes. Almost invariably, his books equate light skin with purity, civilization and goodness, and dark skin with corruption, barbarism and evil. Not to say that he was racist in the same way as H.P. Lovecraft was when writing about fish-men from Innsmouth as a…
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What is the racist connotation of Stone-Throwing devils? Btw, if Pradesh Gypsies is racist, we better start torching a ton of Marvel comics - Dr. Doom is a gypsy and all the (often excellent) stories around his background use the exact same imagery, all the way to the cyberpunk Doom 2099.
The name and art for Pradesh Gypsies wasn't the problem. The card text was the issue -- it had an ability which could temporarily reduce the strength of an opponent's card, invoking the stereotype of a thieving gypsy.
That modifier might as well come from outwitting or befuddling, particularly with a text that evokes mystery.
Sounds to me like this choice says more about the actual prejudices of whoever made it, rather than objective parameters.