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Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by whatusername »

djcapelis wrote: post #13
forkandwait wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rather than downvoting my rather heavily caveatted remarks, perhaps you could answer the question: Is there a patent encumbrance that makes this more than a technical problem? EDIT: moved "heavily qualified" to something more idiomatic.

Since it's sometimes considered nice to explain a downvote, I wanted to mention I downvoted you for spending time telling us how qualified you were instead of just restating your question in a simpler way. I don't know why your other post was downvoted, but probably because people think it's not an interesting question, could be determined by actually going to Google yourself and doing your own homework/search and mo…

Actually -- by saying "very qualified remarks" forkandwait was not talking about his/her education. S/He was instead referring to the fact that by calling the problem of getting market share "(VERY non-trivial)" in the OP - they were well aware of the issue and asking a simple question about twitter's patent protection (or lack thereof).

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by [deleted] »

DanI-S wrote: post #16

I'd be interested to hear what 'normal', non-power users of Twitter think. The 'mouth-breathing buffoons' that Jeff Rock so denigrates (and evidently make up most of Twitter's users) may actually like this UI feature. Viewing the world through nerd-tinted spectacles makes many things seem horrible that are perfectly OK to a regular person.

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Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by Stwerner »

daveman692 wrote: post #14

Am I mean for just not caring what's currently trending on Twitter? Feels like a similar problem to showing ads on blogs. I'm there for the content and the ad has to be exceptionally good in order to get any of my attention.

For a while now I've thought it would make sense to create 'relevant trends' for users - take the people you follow and the people they follow, and generate 10 trending topics From those people's tweets. Trending topics would become so much more useful.

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by InclinedPlane »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #5
forkandwait wrote: post #3

Is the sms -> internet/ server -> sms pathway tied up in business patents by Twitter? I am sure I am (sort of) underestimating, but Twitter seems like a weekend project for a couple of decent hackers; if they piss enough people off is there any reason to stick with them except for (VERY non-trivial) first past the post market share?

Ooh, another "it's just a weekend project!" comment. Next step: convince everyone to use your weekend project, instead of Twitter. Allowing people to import all of their tweets and friends would be helpful, so be sure to implement that. Next next step: Handle all of Twitter's traffic. Consistently, and you not only have to do it better than they did in the beginning, but better than they do it now .

Here's the thing. If it were anything other than a major endeavor to replace twitter it would have been done by now.

It is a big problem and not just from an engineering standpoint. The same for facebook.

On the plus side, for competition at least, as hardware technology advances it'll become easier and cheaper to match twitter's capabilities with less effort.

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by pavel_lishin »

Stwerner wrote: post #25
daveman692 wrote: post #14

Am I mean for just not caring what's currently trending on Twitter? Feels like a similar problem to showing ads on blogs. I'm there for the content and the ad has to be exceptionally good in order to get any of my attention.

For a while now I've thought it would make sense to create 'relevant trends' for users - take the people you follow and the people they follow, and generate 10 trending topics From those people's tweets. Trending topics would become so much more useful.

This. I don't think people realize that (I hope) most of Twitter's users are interested in specific people, not the generic Twittersphere.

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by panacea »

DanI-S wrote: post #16

I'd be interested to hear what 'normal', non-power users of Twitter think. The 'mouth-breathing buffoons' that Jeff Rock so denigrates (and evidently make up most of Twitter's users) may actually like this UI feature. Viewing the world through nerd-tinted spectacles makes many things seem horrible that are perfectly OK to a regular person.

Surely "mouth-breathing buffoons" is short-hand for 'not my niche/circle of interest apes'.

We're all primates with our own monkey-sphere, and our inner circle of orangutans will be most important to us.

Some of us choose to read Daring Fireball (http://bit.ly/60LKTH) and follow John on twitter. But twitter is telling us in the most prominent position they have that we should be interested in this: http://bit.ly/1F5sWF.

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by djcapelis »

forkandwait wrote: post #19
djcapelis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since it's sometimes considered nice to explain a downvote, I wanted to mention I downvoted you for spending time telling us how qualified you were instead of just restating your question in a simpler way. I don't know why your other post was downvoted, but probably because people think it's not an interesting question, could be determined by actually going to Google yourself and doing your own homework/search and mo…

Well, you don't seem to understand what "qualified" means in the context written -- when I said that my response was qualified it meant that I put caveats around it ("I qualified my response"). Sorry if I was unclear.

Ah ha. I understand how it could have been used in that context, just failed to understand that it was. Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Why the Quick Bar (“dickbar”) is still so offensive

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Post by joe_the_user »

DanI-S wrote: post #16

I'd be interested to hear what 'normal', non-power users of Twitter think. The 'mouth-breathing buffoons' that Jeff Rock so denigrates (and evidently make up most of Twitter's users) may actually like this UI feature. Viewing the world through nerd-tinted spectacles makes many things seem horrible that are perfectly OK to a regular person.

Great question...

My guess is that each micro-demographic thinks of the other micro-demographics as 'buffoons' or perhaps 'horn-rimmed nerds'. If someone wanted to find out what the masses were enjoying, they'd be watching network TV instead.

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