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U.S. Army Vintage Racer Concept Suggests Hypersonic Entry For Loitering UAS

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Re: U.S. Army Vintage Racer Concept Suggests Hypersonic Entry For Loitering UAS

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Suicide drone? So... a missile?

No, because it can loiter in the air for up to 2 hours in the target area before destroying its target.

Supposedly nuclear powered missiles (if they really exist) can cruise for days

Re: U.S. Army Vintage Racer Concept Suggests Hypersonic Entry For Loitering UAS

#23
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably you can abort mission with a drone and have it return home. Not sure you can do that with a cruise missile.

the IAI Harop is a missile that can loiter, and if no target is found can Return to Base.[0] Although, admittedly, the lines between 'drone' and 'missile' have begun to blur. [0] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harop

Having your missile return home seems suboptimal.

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As I understand it, my grandfather helped to develop a suicide drone that got to its target area at hypersonic speed in the late 1950s. For the Pentagon. It was called the Minuteman ICBM, and it entered service in 1962. Is it possible to get a less misleading title on this article than "Pentagon Has Tested A Suicide Drone That Gets To Its Target Area At Hypersonic Speed"?

It would be misleading to call an ICBM a drone.

Re: U.S. Army Vintage Racer Concept Suggests Hypersonic Entry For Loitering UAS

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably you can abort mission with a drone and have it return home. Not sure you can do that with a cruise missile.

the IAI Harop is a missile that can loiter, and if no target is found can Return to Base.[0] Although, admittedly, the lines between 'drone' and 'missile' have begun to blur. [0] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harop

That Wikipedia article repeatedly referred to it as a stone.

Re: U.S. Army Vintage Racer Concept Suggests Hypersonic Entry For Loitering UAS

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post #18

As I understand it, my grandfather helped to develop a suicide drone that got to its target area at hypersonic speed in the late 1950s. For the Pentagon. It was called the Minuteman ICBM, and it entered service in 1962. Is it possible to get a less misleading title on this article than "Pentagon Has Tested A Suicide Drone That Gets To Its Target Area At Hypersonic Speed"?

It would be misleading to call an ICBM a drone.

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post #18

As I understand it, my grandfather helped to develop a suicide drone that got to its target area at hypersonic speed in the late 1950s. For the Pentagon. It was called the Minuteman ICBM, and it entered service in 1962. Is it possible to get a less misleading title on this article than "Pentagon Has Tested A Suicide Drone That Gets To Its Target Area At Hypersonic Speed"?

It would be misleading to call an ICBM a drone.

It would be even more misleading to say an ICBM wasn't a drone, but that the "Vintage Racer" munition was a drone. As the article points out, some "drones" have better survivability than ICBMs do, but those aren't the ones the article is about.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, because it can loiter in the air for up to 2 hours in the target area before destroying its target.

Supposedly nuclear powered missiles (if they really exist) can cruise for days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto looks both like an amazing idea and something super over-engineered. It looks like it would be relatively easy to spot too... and possibly shot down?

Re: U.S. Army Vintage Racer Concept Suggests Hypersonic Entry For Loitering UAS

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post #18

As I understand it, my grandfather helped to develop a suicide drone that got to its target area at hypersonic speed in the late 1950s. For the Pentagon. It was called the Minuteman ICBM, and it entered service in 1962. Is it possible to get a less misleading title on this article than "Pentagon Has Tested A Suicide Drone That Gets To Its Target Area At Hypersonic Speed"?

The word "loitering" distinguishes it pretty far from that. It's also important that, unlike ICBMs, this is positioned to be something which would be used in more than theory.

Re: U.S. Army Vintage Racer Concept Suggests Hypersonic Entry For Loitering UAS

#30
post #18

As I understand it, my grandfather helped to develop a suicide drone that got to its target area at hypersonic speed in the late 1950s. For the Pentagon. It was called the Minuteman ICBM, and it entered service in 1962. Is it possible to get a less misleading title on this article than "Pentagon Has Tested A Suicide Drone That Gets To Its Target Area At Hypersonic Speed"?

The B in ICBM stands for ballistic. That means they are mainly bound by gravity for most of their travel. Hypersonic drones on the other hand are far more steerable. Curious droid has a great video on the difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0t06EkZJcM
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