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Archaeologists Identify Traces Cannabis in Ancient Jewish Shrines

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For some reason I was under the impression that cannabis was a new world plant, but apparently it hails from Asia.

I was too, but then I remembered that the Assassins (Hashshashins) reportedly used hashish in their rituals and were contemporaneous with the crusades.

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No doubt. Religion basically goes. 1. Take drugs and related stuff for fun or whatever 2. See something impressive 3. Cultivate your ability to use the drugs or whatever to investigate the impressive thing more closely. 4. Said cultivators impress the locals. 5. Locals document the whole thing. 6. Cultivators fall out of fashion, come into conflict with the local ruling class or for whatever reason disappear from pub…

Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please don't dismiss strange conversations as flamewar. And definitely please don't censor them.

It really inhibits our whole process of communication.

I am actually elevating religion above the usual scienceist-attitude that is so common these days.

Try to keep an open mind.

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A (rather infamous? I recall a ton of controversy about it) wikipedia article for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas

What is controversial about Charas?

Not charas, the wikipedia article about it.

Found it- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/25/russia-bans-wi...

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For some reason I was under the impression that cannabis was a new world plant, but apparently it hails from Asia.

Yeah, it grows wild in many Asian countries and in places like Japan, they're mostly unaware the wild variety is the same as the illegal variety. https://soranews24.com/2014/12/03/in-hokkaido-theres-weed-we... And there's a reason why there's a strain called Hindu kush(or I guess any variety called kush) it's named for the Hindu kush mountain region. It's been a huge part of Tibetan, Nepalis and Indian culture for th…

> the wild variety is the same as the illegal variety.

The distinction being, of course: the wild variety becomes the illegal variety as soon as someone has it in their possession or cultivates it.

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That comes off as kind of dismissive of religion, but if what you say is true, then what I'd like to know is, what sort of techniques were discovered in step (3)? I mean, if ancient priests discovered esoteric methods of getting more and more high, that... sounds... actually kind of awesome and I'd like to read about those methods!

It's dismissive of our culture. A bunch of dreamers we are, living in stories. Religion. The real kind. Otoh. Kicks ass. Techniques : Psychedelics. Meditation. Breathing techniques. Controlled stress and pain. Fasting. Sleep deprivation. Theater. Sex. Off the top of my head. A google might reveal more.

I'd be interested in continuing this conversation by email if you were interested. You can find my address in any of my papers (such as this one: https://philpapers.org/archive/ALEMSI.pdf)

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No doubt. Religion basically goes. 1. Take drugs and related stuff for fun or whatever 2. See something impressive 3. Cultivate your ability to use the drugs or whatever to investigate the impressive thing more closely. 4. Said cultivators impress the locals. 5. Locals document the whole thing. 6. Cultivators fall out of fashion, come into conflict with the local ruling class or for whatever reason disappear from pub…

Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

While I understand it is you and your colleagues domain to steer HN as you’ll see fit, I respectfully disagree with you here.

Perhaps @swayvil could have worded their comment better, and perhaps this simply isn’t the correct forum.

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