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Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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I don't think I want to change the world right now. I really don't. Does that make me a bad person or unfit to be an entrepreneur? All I want to do is solve a real problem for some segment of a large market and make their lives a little easier. I want to build as much value as possible for my customers, so that they are willing to pay good money for my software. And yes, I want to get rich. I agree that optimizing so…

And you're right that it was a little absurd for me to wind up in Silicon Valley doing a startup. I'd be glad to write a follow-up post about how that all happened.

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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Most of that sounds pretty good, but I have to disagree with this bit: Ask yourself: would you sell your company? Would you sell it for $20 million? If you answered yes, at this stage, find a new idea. You don’t love it enough. That strikes me as an over-generalized view. Different people have different circumstances that are going to affect that decision. Somebody who has already had a successful exit and is already…

I don't think he's saying selling is bad... but that the goal is to build something great. If you believe in it and are driven by your vision of making it great and you succeed, people will want to buy it. Then you'll have options. If the goal is just to build something that will get bought, you might be able to get... stressed and frantic about that. But you usually won't have the same type of passionate, intrinsic…

If the goal is just to build something that will get bought, you might be able to get... stressed and frantic about that. But you usually won't have the same type of passionate, intrinsic motivation that drives founders who are in love with their idea.

Fair enough, and I agree with that. I don't want to "build a company to flip," but if - in the process of building what I hope will be a billion dollar company - I get an early / unexpected chance to walk away with a nice chunk of bank; it would be hard to turn down. That's all I'm really getting at.

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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Your article made my heart race; all the way through I was thinking "That's US"! Especially the "touch of insanity" part because we are selling our house and taking some pretty big leaps to make this thing happen.

We only learned about YCombinator about 2 weeks ago, within days of having decided to go "all in" but it's too great of an opportunity to pass up so we're scrambling to hit the app. deadline while getting the house on the market, planning next steps etc. But we are so energized everyday by the possibility of bringing our idea to life.

The Ron Conway quote was right on time for me -“real entrepreneurs aren’t thinking about exits; they’re thinking about changing the world”... I always feel a little nuts for being sad when people say things like "you'll probably sell to...for millions"... but from now on, I'll think about you, Ron Conway and changing the world and smile because clearly, I'm not the only one! Thanks a bunch for this post.

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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>Would you sell it for $20 million? If you answered yes, at this stage, find a new idea. Selling a business for $20M would make it a lot easier to get traction for your next idea.

I am not entirely sure this is true. As a young serial entrepreneur with one 7 figure exit I can tell you that most people I meet have no idea who I am or what the company I sold even did. So while an exit does probably help I don't think "much easier" is exactly accurate. That said I see the main point from the author of this post, but I believe he missed some things.

I sold my company for less than 20 million because I came from a middle class family, I had never had money, my parents were the epitome of middle class and I lived a modest life. The amount of money we settled on was enough for me to life for a very long time without significantly changing my lifestyle. It gave me a sense of security and a parachute in case I was to fall on hard times later.

Even at a young age I knew i was giving up alot of possible future profit for a short term payday, but that said i have never really regretted selling because it gave me the freedom to do anything I desired, as it turns out what i want to do and what I was already doing arent terribly far apart, but the projects I am working on now are EXACTLY what I want to do and will make money as time goes on but do not have to be rushed or turned into something they are not.

My current project I would not sell unless my percentage of the exit netted me over 250 million probably however I am a long way from that and just having fun right now.

Though for the most part I agree with the author of the original posts I just think people should consider that there are reasons why some people choose to exit for smaller amounts, some make perfect sense and others make very little however as long as the person selling is happy with the outcome who is to judge?

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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I don't think I want to change the world right now. I really don't. Does that make me a bad person or unfit to be an entrepreneur? All I want to do is solve a real problem for some segment of a large market and make their lives a little easier. I want to build as much value as possible for my customers, so that they are willing to pay good money for my software. And yes, I want to get rich. I agree that optimizing so…

I think making the lives of some segment of a market a little easier is changing the world. Maybe not all at once, but little by little. That's all Facebook has done, really - it has made the part of our lives where we try to keep up with people we care about a little easier. And since it's easier, we do it more often.

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think he's saying selling is bad... but that the goal is to build something great. If you believe in it and are driven by your vision of making it great and you succeed, people will want to buy it. Then you'll have options. If the goal is just to build something that will get bought, you might be able to get... stressed and frantic about that. But you usually won't have the same type of passionate, intrinsic…

If the goal is just to build something that will get bought, you might be able to get... stressed and frantic about that. But you usually won't have the same type of passionate, intrinsic motivation that drives founders who are in love with their idea. Fair enough, and I agree with that. I don't want to "build a company to flip," but if - in the process of building what I hope will be a billion dollar company - I get…

I definitely see that... turning down a big offer wouldn't even be smart in some cases. And even for those who want to "change the world" there may be a point where the money just makes too much sense to walk away from...because you may KNOW you could make a difference in another way with $20million.

I also think a lot depends on how you're wired. I'm relentless & tireless when I believe in what I'm doing and good things tend to happen when I'm in that space. But I can't see myself getting there from a starting point built only on $$$.

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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I agree with most of the other comments here regarding the over-generalization of the $20 million offer.

"Would you sell it for $20 million?" There are so many variables for consideration in answering this question that can result in anything from a symbiotic relationship with a bigger player to augmenting the market using the buyer party's core competencies to just forfeiting the rights to the other party (which is the only viewpoint factored into the author's answer- "find a new idea"). Don't need to necessarily find a new idea as much as be a master of the idea's fate.

Nonetheless, I heartily agree with the last section- mastery of a domain of knowledge. Advice needs to be slapped as a layer on top of hardcore expertise. I've made this mistake in the past of letting the allure of a tech lead me to an area where I didn't have the necessary expertise and idea dissipated quickly. Now I'm focused on an area that my partner and I have deep-seated expertise in and the advice is very easy to cut through to take only the nuggets that apply.

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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Ok, it's time to pour some cold water here: there's no such thing as the "true spirit of the entrepreneur". This phrase is reminiscent of the "you cannot grasp the true form of [X]" meme. Cool it, Giygas.

An entrepreneur needs confidence, freedom, and opportunity. There needs to be a problem for him or her to solve, he or she must believe that it can be solved, and he or she needs the resources and freedom to do it. Then, he or she needs to be right on the solubility of the problem given available resources, and able to capture the value created (if he or she cares about being wealthy). That's all. It's not wizardry. It is something that few people have the freedom to do.

I think 20-year-olds' garage startups are very cool but overrated. People write about it because it's rare. The best time to start a business, for most people, I would put around age 35-50, when one is still young but has the experience to judge whether it will work, enough years to one's name that one can hire experienced people (no one wants a younger boss) and the connections to pull it off. (I'm 27, by the way; not an older person trying to justify himself.) Y Combinator gives the people in their 20s a bump by providing connections they'd otherwise never have, and that's an awesome service, but that's atypical for people of that age, and the prestige and contacts of YC, if not singular, are something most of its brethren don't have.

Also, I think it's very naive to believe anyone wouldn't "sell out" for $20 million personally. At $20 million, that lie school tells smart people about the world being their oyster becomes true. Ideas come and go, but being rich means you actually own your life instead of renting it from a series of employers (or, if you're lucky enough to be in a startup, VCs). The second-best thing about being rich is having the freedom not to work, but that (from what I've heard) is like a toy that gets boring after a few years. The actual best thing about being rich is having the freedom to work. (The shuffling around and taking orders from others, in an artificially stressful office environment, that most people do? Not really work. Real work improves the world and matters.) I can think of very few legal and ethical things (and some ethically acceptable but illegal ones) I would not do for $20 million; I'd have the confidence of knowing that I can do real work for the rest of my life. Seriously, I'd love to kill all of life's stupid anxieties and dedicate (most of) my existence to useful work.

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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I can relate to a lot of what Jon is saying in the article, but quite honestly the impression I've gotten is that investors are only interested in the "quick flip" and don't want to hear the grandiose plans.

It seems like if I were to talk to a potential investor and tell them the ideas I have to change consumer behavior for the better and connect an industry in a way that hasn't been done before, they'd tell me to stop dreaming and to forecast their 10x.

If every company sells to Google when they get a chance, who becomes the next Google?

Re: Are you sure you want to start a company? (A Letter to Y Combinator Applicants)

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I don't think I want to change the world right now. I really don't. Does that make me a bad person or unfit to be an entrepreneur? All I want to do is solve a real problem for some segment of a large market and make their lives a little easier. I want to build as much value as possible for my customers, so that they are willing to pay good money for my software. And yes, I want to get rich. I agree that optimizing so…

I used to be disgusted by materialism and greed, when I was in college, but my first job out of school washed my naivete away. It paid well but it was awful, and not because I had a bad boss (I had two, one good and one bad) but also because we were treated horribly by clients. They didn't respect us or our work at all. Why? Because they had money. No other reason. The fact that my job there was better than what 90% of people have (good pay and shitty conditions, when the norm is low pay and shitty conditions) made it clear that, unfortunately, money matters a fucking lot. If you don't have it, you can end up in jobs like that. So yeah, getting at least comfortable is a high priority for me and pretty much everyone else in this lost generation. Besides, long-term career mentoring is gone in most companies and no one listens to a smart person with good ideas unless he's rich, so what is there to expect from work other than a swing at owning one's life?

Excessive greed is idiotic, like a mental illness. We'd call a guy with 300 cats insane, and not want kids around someone who has a different sexual partner every day, but someone who works 100 hours per week to chase inordinate amounts of money he doesn't need is lauded as a hero. That, I'll agree, is a pathology. On the other hand, moderate greed is (very unfortunately) a survival trait in this morally crippled, creatively desolate, fiercely individualistic world.

That said, though I want to be rich, it's mainly because of the positive things I could do for the world, not what I would take from it. I can't ever see why I would want a private jet. If I had the money, I'd rather invest it in something that can make others' lives better-- maglev transport, green energy-- than fly around in absurdly ridiculous comfort as opposed to the merely ridiculous comfort of international first class. Besides, I'll probably marry my current girlfriend-- she's quite awesome-- so I have no interest in the "party" culture or impressing women, and I'm too abrasive to have a shot in politics, so what exactly would I need to be a billionaire for?

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