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Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

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Walkouts will achieve nothing, but the tragic part of the story is Silicon Valley engineers are sitting on a massive amount of power to affect real change IF they collectively organize, which they have various irrational hang ups about doing. Zuckerberg does not care if 50% of his engineers skip a video meeting. He would greatly care if he found out 50%+ of his SREs were going on strike. But the word union is stigmat…

I don't support unions because unions drag everyone's wages to an average (I'd rather be a top performer and be paid accordingly). Also, I've seen first hand the amount of incompetent teachers, police and government employees who are unfireable because of unions.

So the concept of a union for me personally means I'll be paid less, be surrounded by unfireable underperformers and have zero incentive to improve my craft.

I also truly don't understand how you can allow politics to be so deeply embedded in your work.

Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

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So we should hand over control and censorship of the President's communications to a small group of Silicon Valley engineers?

Do you really think — if Facebook and Twitter hypothetically decided to ban him — that the President of the United States would have trouble getting a message out?

Yes? What's he going to do if he's kicked off social media? His reach would decline my millions or tens of millions at least.

Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

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post #16

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> Right now engineers have incredible leverage. If the engineers’ leverage is so great, why have they been unable to enact policies they support?

Why can they make hundreds of thousands in total compensation?

this explains everything. you can stage a walk out in a meeting but you’re still on zuckerbergs payroll. and if 50% of the us based engineers quit based on some social principles there’s thousands of engineers ready to fill those spots around the world for a fraction of the price. covid has shown remote work works. unionizing and making the US more costly to work with will only accelerate how “remote” these jobs can be

Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

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post #3

Walkouts will achieve nothing, but the tragic part of the story is Silicon Valley engineers are sitting on a massive amount of power to affect real change IF they collectively organize, which they have various irrational hang ups about doing. Zuckerberg does not care if 50% of his engineers skip a video meeting. He would greatly care if he found out 50%+ of his SREs were going on strike. But the word union is stigmat…

We're in this situation because of police unions. Fuck any SWE union. It'll be full of xenophobic crackpots.

What? Damn, what's happening here?

Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

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post #3

Walkouts will achieve nothing, but the tragic part of the story is Silicon Valley engineers are sitting on a massive amount of power to affect real change IF they collectively organize, which they have various irrational hang ups about doing. Zuckerberg does not care if 50% of his engineers skip a video meeting. He would greatly care if he found out 50%+ of his SREs were going on strike. But the word union is stigmat…

Serious question: do you genuinely think he would care if 50% of the SREs went on strike, or even if they quit immediately? I find it hard to believe that he would be significantly distraught.

Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

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post #3

Walkouts will achieve nothing, but the tragic part of the story is Silicon Valley engineers are sitting on a massive amount of power to affect real change IF they collectively organize, which they have various irrational hang ups about doing. Zuckerberg does not care if 50% of his engineers skip a video meeting. He would greatly care if he found out 50%+ of his SREs were going on strike. But the word union is stigmat…

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Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

#28
What's with the cynicism in this posts? They're trying to make a point and bring awareness. Who cares how hard it is. At least they're doing something.

To give them credit they're making a political statement at work when we're told not to talk politics at work.

Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think — if Facebook and Twitter hypothetically decided to ban him — that the President of the United States would have trouble getting a message out?

Yes? What's he going to do if he's kicked off social media? His reach would decline my millions or tens of millions at least.

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Re: Hundreds of Facebook employees walk out as Zuckerberg plans town hall tomorrow

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think — if Facebook and Twitter hypothetically decided to ban him — that the President of the United States would have trouble getting a message out?

Yes? What's he going to do if he's kicked off social media? His reach would decline my millions or tens of millions at least.

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