1. It's against the law 2. Extremely unprofessional and childish 3. There are better ways to report security vulnerabilities
Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
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Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#22I just left the following comment: -- It's pretty lame to copy the design and trade dress of another product. It does not bode well for your skill or ability. Backstory: A long time ago I wrote Delicious. We had hundreds of copycats and competitors. The ones that weren't direct copies were the ones that did better. I'm sure this doesn't apply to you for whatever reason.
I mean, Quora's design isn't going to win them any awards; it looks like Quora didn't even use Photoshop, just straight-up CSS.
Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#23Everyone's right that it was an ill-advised thing to do, but stepping back ignoring the law (I know..) and just asking yourself the gut question: What's worse? injecting a relatively harmless script into the product (that frankly caused them to fix an issue that could have been very painful for them if someone more devious had found it first), or Qato's ripoff of Quora in the first place?
Putting the legal issues aside? It doesn't matter either way: security vulnerabilities trump copycats (in my opinion). Publicly releasing details of an XSS vulnerability on a third party's site has much bigger ramifications than a copycat site. Plenty of websites deal with copycats all the time: they're frustrating, but they're not necessarily overly threatening. On the other hand, a 0 day could compromise the securi…
...that could completely destroy your business
Yep.
Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#24The site in question was just an unpromoted testing prototype which barely has any content and happened to have the Quora-like skin on at that moment. It probably shouldn't even have been publicly accessible.
Another Qato site on the same server is http://robofaqs.com, which is sporting our OSQA clone theme. It doesn't look anything like Quora at all, but is powered by literally the same server instance. That's what we're trying to say - Qato is the general purpose Q&A engine under the skin, and these various skins just modulate the way a Qato site looks.
Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#25Same thing happened in my friend's company and they fired the engineer who identified and exploited the permanent XSS in their competitor's website. Personally I would do the very same thing. 1. It's against the law 2. Extremely unprofessional and childish 3. There are better ways to report security vulnerabilities
Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#26Same thing happened in my friend's company and they fired the engineer who identified and exploited the permanent XSS in their competitor's website. Personally I would do the very same thing. 1. It's against the law 2. Extremely unprofessional and childish 3. There are better ways to report security vulnerabilities
I sincerely hope that's not what happens here. I would hate to see someone lose their job over what seems to have been a temporary lapse in judgement.
Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#27The full quote from Rick Ross is "I am grateful that Ben Newman and Albert Sheu of Quora have identified a (now fixed) XSS vulnerability in our test site, but I am surprised that Quora policy permits developers to engage so openly in vandalizing other people's websites." which is slightly nicer than that article makes it sound. Personally, I think the Quora engineers involved made some poor decisions. Anyone who look…
That said, publicly disclosing a flaw in addition to defacing the website, even temporarily, is certainly not a classy way to go about it.
Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#28I just left the following comment: -- It's pretty lame to copy the design and trade dress of another product. It does not bode well for your skill or ability. Backstory: A long time ago I wrote Delicious. We had hundreds of copycats and competitors. The ones that weren't direct copies were the ones that did better. I'm sure this doesn't apply to you for whatever reason.
If Qato is going to copy someone's design, can't they find something better than Quora ? I mean, Quora's design isn't going to win them any awards; it looks like Quora didn't even use Photoshop, just straight-up CSS.
Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#29Just for the record, I meant it sincerely when I said that we were grateful that Ben Newman and Albert Sheu showed us an XSS hole in Qato, and that has now been fixed. The site in question was just an unpromoted testing prototype which barely has any content and happened to have the Quora-like skin on at that moment. It probably shouldn't even have been publicly accessible. Another Qato site on the same server is htt…
Re: Quora engineers accused of vandalizing a clone’s website
#30Just for the record, I meant it sincerely when I said that we were grateful that Ben Newman and Albert Sheu showed us an XSS hole in Qato, and that has now been fixed. The site in question was just an unpromoted testing prototype which barely has any content and happened to have the Quora-like skin on at that moment. It probably shouldn't even have been publicly accessible. Another Qato site on the same server is htt…
FYI, underlined hyperlinks make it impossible to tell the difference between a "q" and a "g" in a URL. As such, I'd suggest you spend some time finding a better name for that unfortunately named site you linked.