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Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

#21

My own website is starting to "revert" to this concept. A few years ago, it was primarily an about page and a resume. Now it has a blog, a links page, and a "knowledge base" that's mostly just notes for myself. I'm too burnt out on web "best practices" to care about that for my personal sites anymore. If you're curious: https://benovermyer.com

I really really like this approach. Something like this has been sitting in the back of my mind but I've been so burnt out on, well, everything, to do anything about it, constantly worrying about it not being perfect or not adhering to whatever is _the_ standard of the hour blah blah blah. It's reassuring to see that I'm being a fool and that I should just do it, "best" practices be damned.

Thanks for sharing!

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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There was a small resurgence of webrings in last year: Hotline Webring: https://hotlinewebring.club XXIIVV Webring: https://webring.xxiivv.com Weird Wide Webring: https://weirdwidewebring.net I'm personally more into personal directories and blogrolls than these random clicks - but they still seem to be a good way to put together a small community. (And this post isn't meant to discourage you - but rather to encourag…

Hmm, that's very useful information, thank you! Personal directories seem more useful and easier to put together, I think you're right.

Well then here are some little directories to inspire you! :)

* Edwin Wenink's 'etc' page: https://www.edwinwenink.xyz/etc/etc/

* Gabby Lord's: https://omglord.com

* Fingers.today: https://fingers.today

* Neonauticon: https://neonaut.neocities.org/directory/

* Gwern: https://www.gwern.net (the whole thing is a massive personal directory)

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, that's very useful information, thank you! Personal directories seem more useful and easier to put together, I think you're right.

Well then here are some little directories to inspire you! :) * Edwin Wenink's 'etc' page: https://www.edwinwenink.xyz/etc/etc/ * Gabby Lord's: https://omglord.com * Fingers.today: https://fingers.today * Neonauticon: https://neonaut.neocities.org/directory/ * Gwern: https://www.gwern.net (the whole thing is a massive personal directory)

Thank you! These are all delightful.

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

#24
The word is niche.

There are 2 major factors that will power a resurgence, that could use better tools:

1. Discoverability - self-reinforcing webrings, blogrolls, directories, ad free-search etc.

2. Creation - next-gen Dreamweaver. A low-code site creator app that exports a static website as a folder of readable CSS/HTML that people can tinker with by hand (and learn), instead of being locked into one of these cloud WYSIWYG site generators. Hosting is solved. No need to tie the one to the other...

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

#25
post #2

When I picture it in my head I think of the early web as more of a library. Over time it has transitioned into a shopping mall. If I continue with this thought exercise, a lot of the big indoor shopping malls around me have been knocked down and replaced with standalone outdoor stores (walled gardens?). I'm not sure where things are going next.

I think there have been two main changes that have hurt the web:

1) The shift from spammy shit content as something to squash to something to allow and even promote over better content, provided it follows certain (Google's) rules. This shift (in terms of Google's behavior) happened ~2008-2010 and we haven't seen a period of spammy crap content getting heavily downranked since then, like we used to when they were still trying to stay ahead of it rather than give it a "legitimate" avenue as a method of control. Google's still being the most important search provider to appease has left the rest unable to direct behavior toward anything better than what does well on Google, so their results aren't much better.

2) A move away from actual or de facto open systems & protocols to deliberately carved up communities. The only thing keeping chat, Twitter-like services, and other social media—hell, even Youtube, so far as some kind of format for hosting video with metadata—from being standards or protocols is that business incentives reward "owning" a userbase (so you can better spy on them, and to keep anyone from providing a better, perhaps less-spying-laden client and "stealing" ad-viewing eyeballs)

Both of these are fundamentally problems of the spyvertising economy taking over the Web and I think a lot of the issues would go away if we could (legally—I don't think tech will do it) permanently and completely break that. More specifically a big part of the problem is Google, though of course the rest of the Web giants are gleefully following similar bad incentives.

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

#26
This is a great post and makes me miss this type of content.

I created a subreddit recently to help with the discovery problem and posted it on HN earlier this week.

Show HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23287286

Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/hnblogs/

It’s been going well so far, only a small solution to a big problem, but it’s been fun to discover a lot of interesting blogs from people in this community.

If you missed the initial post feel free to join and add yours too.

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

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post #2

When I picture it in my head I think of the early web as more of a library. Over time it has transitioned into a shopping mall. If I continue with this thought exercise, a lot of the big indoor shopping malls around me have been knocked down and replaced with standalone outdoor stores (walled gardens?). I'm not sure where things are going next.

It's still mostly a library, except with commissioned salespeople everywhere and books full of vapid content that scream, fly at you from the shelves, and turn their pages as you try to read them.

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

#28
there's also pubnix (public unix-like servers), gopher, and a new protocol called gemini (which adds simple links and viewer-owned formatting to to gopher). i think there's certainly something to the idea behind more restrictions, with just enough rather than plenty.

i almost want to give myself nothing but wikipedia, api docs, and “small web” and pubnix. i'm not sure that i can give up hn or its ilk (but the ratio of interesting content to poor content is terrible)

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

#29

If you're interested in recent innovations on this front: (rather than just retreading the same Web as before) * Beaker ( https://beakerbrowser.com ) the peer-to-peer browser just released their beta release - and it has some exciting features. Particularly the built-in editor, meaning you can edit, serve and read your pages all from the browser. (Blogging in Beaker is as simple as visiting: hyper://a8e9bd0f4df60ed52…

>Beaker (https://beakerbrowser.com) the peer-to-peer browser just released their beta release

I just tried downloading the Windows executable. Initially it said it will take 1.5 hours, but then the download just failed. Tried a few more times with the same result. This is ironic on so many levels.

Re: Rediscovering the Small Web

#30

If you're interested in recent innovations on this front: (rather than just retreading the same Web as before) * Beaker ( https://beakerbrowser.com ) the peer-to-peer browser just released their beta release - and it has some exciting features. Particularly the built-in editor, meaning you can edit, serve and read your pages all from the browser. (Blogging in Beaker is as simple as visiting: hyper://a8e9bd0f4df60ed52…

Is beaker appreciably different from freenet?

https://freenetproject.org/index.html

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