I wonder if devs in india would be willing to do night shifts to sync their times with us teams.
The place I worked, the Indian employees replaced the US night shift. It's handy if you need 24 hour coverage.
Ask HN: If you are fully/partially remote, would you hire devs in India?
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Re: Ask HN: If you are fully/partially remote, would you hire devs in India?
#22I don't understand all this talk about "if you hire remote, you can hire globally". Everybody already did!
Why are people constantly threatening us with things that happened 20 years ago? Especially when we've been buried in hysteria over it for decades.
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#23No, I do not even accept applications from India. The credentials are usually faked and the work sloppy.
Like the girl who cycles 1200 km on 7 days. An they can all do that 1000x. The East India company knew why this place need to be invested for raw materials for 200years. Now when it comes to software development some basic restructuring is needed
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#24I've led teams from India. The skills and talent were fine, although the interview process to find good talent was harder then in the US. I'll skip the horror stories of people googling interview questions... because that isn't really what you are asking about. There were challenges - The communications needed extra effort, and the results were not as good when they were given autonomy over their work. They also were…
as a someone who is transitioning to being a dev (Indian) I would like to hear these horror stories!!
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#25I don't understand all this talk about "if you hire remote, you can hire globally". Everybody already did! Why are people constantly threatening us with things that happened 20 years ago? Especially when we've been buried in hysteria over it for decades.
China has proven itself to be first and if Trump looses then China can help India to get software for their hardware. To become no. 1. Then Americans can pray ! All their life as they have taken everything from their own.
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#26No. I lived and worked for one of the big offshoring companies in Karnataka and also the US in my 20s. I'm glad I had the experience to do so, and, as an American, I was never treated so well in another country (I've also lived in the EU several times). But the whole experience really showed me that it had nothing to do with diversity, cultural exchange, getting the 'best and brightest, nor all the other bullshit tha…
"has probably had more to do with the growing inequality between the 0.1% and the rest of us than anything else."
I disagree. The growing wage inequality between the rich and poor has many other factors. Tech companies are just one small part of it. Before 2004, most of these big techs did not even exist. But wage gap has been increasing for almost last 45 years or so in the US if you look at the data. Take Walmart for example. They employ plenty of Americans but look at the shit wages they pay. They can still get away with it because our politicians have tipped the scale heavily in favor of large corporations. Visa or not, large corporations can get away with almost anything because they are "too big to fail".
"ignoring a company's responsibility to pay back the society"
I agree with you on moral grounds but that is not how capitalism works. A private corporation's highest priority is to serve its shareholders and executives, period. It does not care about paying back to society. Should they care ? Yes I think so. But by definition of capitalism, they are not obligated to. Unless we change the thinking and mindset, it won't happen. Offshoring/tech visas are again a small portion of it and gets blamed way more than it should.
Re: Ask HN: If you are fully/partially remote, would you hire devs in India?
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the pay will be the same, you can be the best paymaster but you should also look at local wage benchmarks and stay within ballpark.
Congrats on this bold justification you’ve created to justify your role in the exploitation process, but you’re not fooling anyone. There is no moral or material logic for this nonsense.
So are you saying if you hire a foreign remote worker, they should be get the same salary as a US worker? Moreover, how could paying a standard wage for a country ever be considered exploitation?
Re: Ask HN: If you are fully/partially remote, would you hire devs in India?
#28I work for a distributed company.
This means we have over ten offices all over the world.
There is at least one office in India. It used to have many engineers, now it has few.
The reasons: Engineers in India have this culture that values position more than skills. They think they must work only three years as developers and move to management as soon as they can, otherwise they are wasting time, or they think they are a professional failure.
Now development is mostly done in Europe.
Re: Ask HN: If you are fully/partially remote, would you hire devs in India?
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the pay will be the same, you can be the best paymaster but you should also look at local wage benchmarks and stay within ballpark.
Congrats on this bold justification you’ve created to justify your role in the exploitation process, but you’re not fooling anyone. There is no moral or material logic for this nonsense.
But hang on, not all US teams are paid the same either. A dev in kansas gets less than a dev in SV.
Are you arguing that all devs everywhere should be paid the same for moral reasons? (genuine question)
Is it not more morally ethical to hire 2 devs in denver for the price of 1 in New York, thus providing employment for twice as many americans?
Re: Ask HN: If you are fully/partially remote, would you hire devs in India?
#30I am in Seattle, and have worked on teams with engineers located across the US, across Europe and in Mexico. I have found talented engineers everywhere. As mentioned below, there are political reasons you might not want to this. And, there are some logistical hurdles in terms of local regulations which, in my experience, can be overcome and plenty of companies have shown that is the case. So, to answer your question…
All you say is true. The solution is to centralize engineering in a time zone.
It doesn't need to be a time zone in the US.