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The weirdest (but working) iPhone 4 reception trick I have ever heard

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Re: The weirdest (but working) iPhone 4 reception trick I have ever heard

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I'm going to risk sounding like a dunce here, but IIRC some frequencies are more prone to bouncing off glass - for example in metropolitan cities with lots of high-rise buildings. While this is a detriment in the city, it could also be acting as a "satellite dish" making it easier to collect stay signals while also directing most of the transmission upward. Considering the antenna is supposed to be at the bottom of t…

Mobile devices tend to operate in the 700 to 900 MHz range which translates to a wavelengths of several inches, so it's quite possible the geometry of the drinking glass is providing a bit of focus to the signal.

Just skimming some sites, I found this one: http://www.squidoo.com/antenna-advice-and-information

It points out that some antennas for PCBs are built at 1/4 wavelength (from 2.75 to 1.3 inches for GSM networks). Something to do with this combined with how waves are either reflected or refracted when hitting a surface like glass could explain how (depending on the angle of the glass and its length) you could see a portion of the signal actually directed upward or just in a different direction. Maybe combined with a flat metal table as a shoddy groundplane?

Whatever is going on it's probably limited to the signal inside and above the glass, as going through non-tinted glass is (iirc) supposed to have a -3dB reduction in signal.

More reading: http://setup-wireless.blogspot.com/2008/11/radio-frequency-b... http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:FGiX56l9G3MJ:w... http://www.wifi-doc.com/Cisco.Press-802.11.Wireless.Ne/15870...

(i really wish an RF/electrical engineer would comment!)

Re: The weirdest (but working) iPhone 4 reception trick I have ever heard

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I suspect this is more about isolating the phone from the radio energy sinks of the human body (surface moisture on the skin & saline blood plasma) than anything to do with the glass itself.

Any suitably insulating (capacitive) enclosure (such as a "napkin swan", teacup, etc.) which preserves a largely vertical orientation (perpendicular to the local ground plane) should work just as well. We're still comfortably within the far-field http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-field performance envelope for transmission, but well within transmission-line power transfer regimes at these frequencies with a cell-phone-sized antenna.

If the glass were lead crystal (extremely unlikely in the bog-standard bar tumbler pictured), there's more potential for interference and a spatial locus of signal above the noise floor is possible. Typical window and utensil glassware is essentially transparent to these frequencies.

Re: The weirdest (but working) iPhone 4 reception trick I have ever heard

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I suspect this is more about isolating the phone from the radio energy sinks of the human body (surface moisture on the skin & saline blood plasma) than anything to do with the glass itself. Any suitably insulating (capacitive) enclosure (such as a "napkin swan", teacup, etc.) which preserves a largely vertical orientation (perpendicular to the local ground plane) should work just as well. We're still comfortably wit…

This seems like the most plausible explanation to me.

Re: The weirdest (but working) iPhone 4 reception trick I have ever heard

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post #14

Tested with an Apple Bumper case and a 500ml Arcoroc glass in my apartment: no effect. Tested without the Bumper: still no effect. Perhaps only certain kinds of glasses will work? Certain shapes or sizes?

yes only certain types of special glasses. you can buy them from my online store for $29.95

Re: The weirdest (but working) iPhone 4 reception trick I have ever heard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely it's just a result of the bars being smoothed/some sort of running average of strength.

But if I move my iPhone around in the room, it seems to change pretty quickly.

To save power, the phone shouldn't be constantly trying to acquire a signal when it can't find one. It should try for 10-20 seconds, give up, then go to sleep, only waking every 30 seconds or so to try again, briefly.

Re: The weirdest (but working) iPhone 4 reception trick I have ever heard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it take 20 seconds for this to work? Radio is not slow.

Most likely these are natural bar changes that are happening anyway. The glass or the "magic sticker that goes on your battery" just fools you into believing confirmation bias.

Another datapoint:

There's no cell coverage in my basement. Sometimes you'd get 1 bar, but it will drop soon afterwards.

After putting the phone inside a glass, I have 3 bars. I took it out, held it by the charm (is that how it is called? The little string with a little figure that you can put on most phones today) and coverage dropped to 0.

Works for me.

Re: The weirdest (but working) iPhone 4 reception trick I have ever heard

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post #27
post #14

Tested with an Apple Bumper case and a 500ml Arcoroc glass in my apartment: no effect. Tested without the Bumper: still no effect. Perhaps only certain kinds of glasses will work? Certain shapes or sizes?

yes only certain types of special glasses. you can buy them from my online store for $29.95

Sorry, I only want it if a) Jonny Ive designed it and b) it has a nice etched Apple logo on the side and c) it's an ideal size for quaffing fine bourbon.

There should also be a stainless steel band around the base which interferes with reception if you hold the glass the wrong way, ideally.

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