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Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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The title should have mentioned the person by name: it's Max Schrems [1]. He has a legal background, and has fought a number of high-profile privacy cases in Europe. The day the GDPR came into effect, he filed violations complaints against Facebook and Google in four different jurisdictions. He's a spearhead figure in this regard. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems

I already knew it was him when reading the headline, weird that they skipped over that. It's kind of a household name if you are at all interested in privacy or are aware of the Facebook privacy issues at this point.

Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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For anyone complaining about this: the advertising ID is a very good thing for us tech people Nobody know how to change it or turn it off. That means a lot of developers and advertisers assume it is actually a good way to track users. So if you go in and reset/disable it, you'll be in such a small minority that you'd become an edge case and they'd lose the historical data on you. Obviously this isn't true 100% of the…

There's no reason they can't do both especially considering privacy-conscious people and those adverse to advertising are the very people advertisers would pay a lot of money to reach.

People who avoid ads aren't even considered a target audience. They exercise too much critical thinking for advertisers who want to grab people by the feels and get them to buy their product for a dopamine rush.

Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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There's no reason they can't do both especially considering privacy-conscious people and those adverse to advertising are the very people advertisers would pay a lot of money to reach.

People who avoid ads aren't even considered a target audience. They exercise too much critical thinking for advertisers who want to grab people by the feels and get them to buy their product for a dopamine rush.

This isn't true for publishers. They want everyone to see ads so they can get paid.

Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who avoid ads aren't even considered a target audience. They exercise too much critical thinking for advertisers who want to grab people by the feels and get them to buy their product for a dopamine rush.

This isn't true for publishers. They want everyone to see ads so they can get paid.

Thanks for the added perspective, you're definitely correct. Measuring penetration is a big deal for price setting ad space. Even still, it doesn't seem to push Google to include their Ad ID system in AOSP instead of the Play Store. They could have forced ROM developers to go digging for the API to remove it.

Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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For anyone complaining about this: the advertising ID is a very good thing for us tech people Nobody know how to change it or turn it off. That means a lot of developers and advertisers assume it is actually a good way to track users. So if you go in and reset/disable it, you'll be in such a small minority that you'd become an edge case and they'd lose the historical data on you. Obviously this isn't true 100% of the…

Swap "tech" with "ad" and you're in good shape.

As a denizen of statistics and technology, fooey with non-anonymized identifier bits outside of bug reports. We have ways of making data speak. We genuinely rarely care the specific record identifier.

Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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The title should have mentioned the person by name: it's Max Schrems [1]. He has a legal background, and has fought a number of high-profile privacy cases in Europe. The day the GDPR came into effect, he filed violations complaints against Facebook and Google in four different jurisdictions. He's a spearhead figure in this regard. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems

> The day the GDPR came into effect, he filed violations complaints against Facebook and Google in four different jurisdictions.

When people do this it comes across as malicious harassment rather than a genuine legal complaint for harm caused. Why so many jurisdictions, and why on the very day it came into effect?

Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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I looked at your link and I did not see how it could be turned off. It doesn't really say what Limit Ad Tracking does. You'd think that if it caused your advertising ID to be zeroes, then Reset Advertising Identifier would be greyed out if you turned on Limit Ad Tracking. OK, so your new link @ Apple is more clear, and I do vaguely recall seeing this years ago: for all modern iOS versions, Limit Ad Tracking does set…

Here is how it works in more detail: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223

> When Limit Ad Tracking is enabled on iOS 10 or later, the Advertising Identifier is replaced with a non-unique value of all zeros to prevent the serving of targeted ads. It is automatically reset to a new random identifier if you disable Limit Ad Tracking.

Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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post #26

For anyone complaining about this: the advertising ID is a very good thing for us tech people Nobody know how to change it or turn it off. That means a lot of developers and advertisers assume it is actually a good way to track users. So if you go in and reset/disable it, you'll be in such a small minority that you'd become an edge case and they'd lose the historical data on you. Obviously this isn't true 100% of the…

Swap "tech" with "ad" and you're in good shape. As a denizen of statistics and technology, fooey with non-anonymized identifier bits outside of bug reports. We have ways of making data speak. We genuinely rarely care the specific record identifier.

I think there’s subtle distinction, when they say “tech” it means web based human exploitation TECHniques aka “Ad”, and when they say “engineers” without specifying which(civil, mechanical, electronics etc) it implies social script engineering. I think the idea is if you think it means technology and software engineering respectively then they’d declare it a problem with your naivety thus quote-unquote your own fault.

Re: Stop tracking me: Austrian citizen files complaint over Android Advertising ID

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For anyone complaining about this: the advertising ID is a very good thing for us tech people Nobody know how to change it or turn it off. That means a lot of developers and advertisers assume it is actually a good way to track users. So if you go in and reset/disable it, you'll be in such a small minority that you'd become an edge case and they'd lose the historical data on you. Obviously this isn't true 100% of the…

advertisers would use a hardware fingerprint probably

I'd be surprised if they didn't.

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