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Re: Debian 10.4

#21

As a relative Linux newbie, who's running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on two laptops at home, would there be any advantages to Debian 10.4 over Ubuntu 20.04? (I assume at least some of that answer would depend on my use cases and hardware, but if you have general insights to the differences, some of us might find that useful!)

Not really.

Re: Debian 10.4

#22
My problem with Debian (and Ubuntu) has been that often when I want to install a seemingly little piece of software, be it a library or a program, I end up getting the whole slew of stuff - frameworks, daemons, even language processors I haven't suspected existed. (This may not be the distro's problem, but I believe at least some of those things may be optional, and I would have liked to treat them as such.)

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #22

My problem with Debian (and Ubuntu) has been that often when I want to install a seemingly little piece of software, be it a library or a program, I end up getting the whole slew of stuff - frameworks, daemons, even language processors I haven't suspected existed. (This may not be the distro's problem, but I believe at least some of those things may be optional, and I would have liked to treat them as such.)

--no-install-recommends

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #22

My problem with Debian (and Ubuntu) has been that often when I want to install a seemingly little piece of software, be it a library or a program, I end up getting the whole slew of stuff - frameworks, daemons, even language processors I haven't suspected existed. (This may not be the distro's problem, but I believe at least some of those things may be optional, and I would have liked to treat them as such.)

You can’t even install a GUI without getting every web browser, mail client, office suite, and more under the sun.

Re: Debian 10.4

#25
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Younglings... 0.93r5

We can play this game, I started on Linux with 0.99pl15 but I can pretty much guarantee you given this place someone will show up within an hour who got on the train in '92 and within a day someone who did in '91. Related: on the occassion of Little Richard dying I have reflected on how every Beatles album was released closer to World War I than today. (Almost, Abbey Road needs a few more months, it'll be true on Aug…

Let It Be was a year after Abbey Road, in 1970.

Very underrated album too.

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can play this game, I started on Linux with 0.99pl15 but I can pretty much guarantee you given this place someone will show up within an hour who got on the train in '92 and within a day someone who did in '91. Related: on the occassion of Little Richard dying I have reflected on how every Beatles album was released closer to World War I than today. (Almost, Abbey Road needs a few more months, it'll be true on Aug…

Let It Be was a year after Abbey Road, in 1970. Very underrated album too.

Ah yes, sorry I forgot. Well then we have one more year left. Nonetheless... I was more trying to place Beatles as "wow it was that long ago??"

Re: Debian 10.4

#27

As a relative Linux newbie, who's running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on two laptops at home, would there be any advantages to Debian 10.4 over Ubuntu 20.04? (I assume at least some of that answer would depend on my use cases and hardware, but if you have general insights to the differences, some of us might find that useful!)

Debian is my go to dist for older equipment e.g. I have Kodi running on a 15yo laptop w Debian 9.

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #22

My problem with Debian (and Ubuntu) has been that often when I want to install a seemingly little piece of software, be it a library or a program, I end up getting the whole slew of stuff - frameworks, daemons, even language processors I haven't suspected existed. (This may not be the distro's problem, but I believe at least some of those things may be optional, and I would have liked to treat them as such.)

You can avoid installing non-required dependencies by adding the following (based on your preferences and/or use case) to a file in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ directory:

  APT::Install-Recommends "false";
  APT::Install-Suggests "false";
Alternatively, you can do as pengaru suggested and the pass "--no-install-recommends" and/or "--no-install-suggests" parameters when installing packages, as described in the apt-get man page [0].

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[0]: https://manpages.debian.org/buster/apt/apt-get.8.en.html

Re: Debian 10.4

#29
post #22

My problem with Debian (and Ubuntu) has been that often when I want to install a seemingly little piece of software, be it a library or a program, I end up getting the whole slew of stuff - frameworks, daemons, even language processors I haven't suspected existed. (This may not be the distro's problem, but I believe at least some of those things may be optional, and I would have liked to treat them as such.)

You can’t even install a GUI without getting every web browser, mail client, office suite, and more under the sun.

You can, but it does require one to RTFM and know/learn about the available installation options.

My automated "preseed" installs are quite minimal. I don't recall exactly how many packages I end up with on a new install but I think it was 224 -- much fewer than what you'll end up with when doing a typical installation.

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #17

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motd_(Unix) Never heard of MOTD before. I'll keep an eye out for it since I haven't encountered it yet (as a newb!) Presumably getting ads is pretty annoying!

It is, and it's one of the more annoying MOTDs I've encountered. You won't see it unless you get rid of the login manager and login at the terminal. Or, use the server edition.

> You won't see it unless you get rid of the login manager and login at the terminal. Or, use the server edition.

And even though you don't see it, it's still there -- on every Ubuntu install (by default) -- phoning home to Canonical (every 12 hours, if memory serves).

(Some users may not mind, of course, but they certainly don't go out of their way to let you know about it beforehand, which is my major issue with it.)

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