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Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Post by lern_too_spel »

pjmlp wrote: post #19
ladyanita22 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And except Android is architecturally a shitshow that would never be able to compete against a proper OS like Windows or macOS.

In that regard the only thing I appreciate is their approach to securing native code. As for everything else, kind of agree. 10 years and still a broken NDK experience, Java stuck on a pseudo Java 8 subset, every IO the best practices get rebooted, Vulkan requires cloning github repos, already went through 3 animation frameworks, JetPack Composer still has no idea how to match existing GUI tooling, ....

The developer experience is a horror show, and the people who control it have been making head-scratching decisions for years (you forgot to mention releasing libraries via SDK manager and git repos long after switching the recommended build system to Gradle and encouraging people to use Maven repos for dependencies), but that doesn't mean the OS architecture isn't sensible. Especially for current app-consuming use cases, the security model makes far more sense than MacOS's security model.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Post by rawTruthHurts »

akmittal wrote: post #6

Ubuntu is becoming more and more suitable for normal users. Most of the work is done in web browsers these days. I do ubuntu minimal installation and almost everything works out of box. More people would be using if laptop makers start giving ubuntu as default option.

What do you mean by "normal users"?

For my parents it's simpler to go with OSX.

For working on print, Inkscape and Gimp pale in comparision with adobe's suite. Not to mention sharing files with the "de facto market standards" world .

For working on audiovisuals, no cigar.

For working on development, well, none of my external hardware was supported (my last experience was Ubuntu 18+) but ok, the IDE worked.

In any case, going to the original question: normal user who?

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Post by pjmlp »

ladyanita22 wrote: post #20
pjmlp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that regard the only thing I appreciate is their approach to securing native code. As for everything else, kind of agree. 10 years and still a broken NDK experience, Java stuck on a pseudo Java 8 subset, every IO the best practices get rebooted, Vulkan requires cloning github repos, already went through 3 animation frameworks, JetPack Composer still has no idea how to match existing GUI tooling, ....

And don't even mention drivers. Lack of stable ABI is why Android gets 2 years of updates vs. how many in Apple and Windows?

Project Treble and Modular System Components are that stable ABI, but it doesn't help if Google doesn't put on the Play Store license agreements that OEMs are obliged to push updates.

https://source.android.com/devices/architecture

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Post by bdcravens »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #12
wincy wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still get weird gotchas. My wife wanted to install Microsoft Teams to talk to our doctor. She got the the Linux download page then asked “should I download the .rpm or the .deb?”. Luckily I was there to tell her. Then she installed it like a champ and got it working, so that was nice. But there’s no way she’d have just “known” this, and it’s just another hurdle to non technical users. Why should you have to know…

Why on earth would someone talk to their doctor with such a product?

My doctors are using Zoom (via MyChart, so I assume many are using the same); one of my wife's providers is using Google Duo.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Post by pjmlp »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #21
pjmlp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that regard the only thing I appreciate is their approach to securing native code. As for everything else, kind of agree. 10 years and still a broken NDK experience, Java stuck on a pseudo Java 8 subset, every IO the best practices get rebooted, Vulkan requires cloning github repos, already went through 3 animation frameworks, JetPack Composer still has no idea how to match existing GUI tooling, ....

The developer experience is a horror show, and the people who control it have been making head-scratching decisions for years (you forgot to mention releasing libraries via SDK manager and git repos long after switching the recommended build system to Gradle and encouraging people to use Maven repos for dependencies), but that doesn't mean the OS architecture isn't sensible. Especially for current app-consuming use c…

Yeah, I didn't want to list everything.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Post by lowtolerance »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #12
wincy wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still get weird gotchas. My wife wanted to install Microsoft Teams to talk to our doctor. She got the the Linux download page then asked “should I download the .rpm or the .deb?”. Luckily I was there to tell her. Then she installed it like a champ and got it working, so that was nice. But there’s no way she’d have just “known” this, and it’s just another hurdle to non technical users. Why should you have to know…

Why on earth would someone talk to their doctor with such a product?

Because most doctor visits right now are “telehealth” visits and as a patient you have zero say as to what platform your doctor chooses to use.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Post by contextfree »

acd wrote: post #3

Windows will become an emulation layer in Linux. Why? Microsoft makes most money from cloud subscriptions.

Microsoft already develops and ships an emulation layer for Windows on Linux; SQL Server for Linux is built on it.

Re: Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys an Astonishing Increase

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Post by grizzles »

I'm a recent Fedora->Ubuntu convert. I recently found a multi monitor hack for the Gnome dock that has had a hugely positive impact on my productivity. It allows you to localize an app to it's respective dock / monitor with this one weird trick: https://github.com/ericbets/essential
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