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Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by jml7c5 »

nocube wrote: post #10

Perhaps these are truly unidentified objects but you can’t ignore the sophistication of the scams associated with UFOs. There are elaborate hoaxes that require a serious amount of work, sometimes allegedly leaking classified information to mix into it. For example, Project Serpo, some conspiracy theory about a secret space mission in the 1960-1970s. Somehow decades later this convinced a well known former CIA employe…

Do you know of any good resources (documentaries, books, etc) on this sort of thing? (Particularly anything about government spending on pseudoscience.)

After those Navy UFO videos were released and I learned that the crank Harold Puthoff was involved, it became a much more interesting story. I'm surprised there isn't a book about the whole weird saga.

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Post by tofof »

It occurs to me that, should extraterrestrial life exist - we might be more likely to be visited first by rules-flouting rogue individuals than by an official mission.

This also neatly explains problems like the "aliens have interstellar travel, but not spectroscopy and can be stopped by wooden doors" mentioned elsewhere in the comments --

A couple of good ol' boys off to deface a nature preserve (Earth to our aliens, the Nazca lines to our GOB's) by driving circles in it could do so today in a truck with active-torque differentials, wireless radiofrequency entry and activation, catalytic conversion of exhausts, an on-board diagnostic computer, turbocharging engine, liquid crystal display and a cmos camera, radar-based cruise control, lidar detector, GPS navigation relying on atomic-clock level timing precision..... without needing to know a thing about how even a single one of those components actually worked, and could be stopped by simple stone bollards.

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Post by ryanmarsh »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #7

It’s hard to believe that every nation with an airforce doesn’t already have some sort of protocol in place about what to do if you see a flying object not flying any known colors that you cannot hail on radio. Edit: unless they all do dating back to the Cold War, and it’s “shoot first, ask questions later.”

The Cold War was anything but “shoot first, ask questions later”... hence the “cold”.

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Post by DennisP »

tofof wrote: post #23

It occurs to me that, should extraterrestrial life exist - we might be more likely to be visited first by rules-flouting rogue individuals than by an official mission. This also neatly explains problems like the "aliens have interstellar travel, but not spectroscopy and can be stopped by wooden doors" mentioned elsewhere in the comments -- A couple of good ol' boys off to deface a nature preserve (Earth to our aliens…

“Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets that haven’t made interstellar contact yet and buzz them.”

“Buzz them?” Arthur began to feel that Ford was enjoying making life difficult for him.

“Yeah,” said Ford, “they buzz them. They find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom no one’s ever going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennas on their head and making beep beep noises.”

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7320721-teasers-are-usually...

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Post by lend000 »

MarcScott wrote: post #22

I thought this was a pretty good explanation of the 3 sightings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jcBGLIpus

Mick West's explanation of "Go Fast" seems highly plausible (the video could be reproduced by a weather balloon, with parallax producing the difficulty of getting a radar lock and the appearance of fast movement). But for the other two, even ignoring witness testimony, it seems like grasping at straws to fit a narrative to a predetermined conclusion.

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Post by elliekelly »

tofof wrote: post #23

It occurs to me that, should extraterrestrial life exist - we might be more likely to be visited first by rules-flouting rogue individuals than by an official mission. This also neatly explains problems like the "aliens have interstellar travel, but not spectroscopy and can be stopped by wooden doors" mentioned elsewhere in the comments -- A couple of good ol' boys off to deface a nature preserve (Earth to our aliens…

I haven’t stopped thinking about this since the American missionary was killed by the uncontacted Sentinelese people. What if Earth is the uncontacted & protected community of the galaxy?

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Post by ak217 »

lend000 wrote: post #26
MarcScott wrote: post #22

I thought this was a pretty good explanation of the 3 sightings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jcBGLIpus

Mick West's explanation of "Go Fast" seems highly plausible (the video could be reproduced by a weather balloon, with parallax producing the difficulty of getting a radar lock and the appearance of fast movement). But for the other two, even ignoring witness testimony, it seems like grasping at straws to fit a narrative to a predetermined conclusion.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20019375

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Post by croissants »

david-gpu wrote: post #18
m3kw9 wrote: post #12

I find it curious that all unclassified UFO videos are blurry and very hard to decipher

If they were clear and high-definition, they would be identified. Selection bias at work.

Section bias seems like a misnomer for this situation. It'd be selection bias if grainy blurry alien videos were more likely to get popular than high-def ones. There doesn't seem to be any kind of "selection" to be biased here.
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