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Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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Re: Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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They were, SiriusXM acquired them just over three years ago: https://blog.automatic.com/automatic-siriusxm-4dfbc9a6885c

SiriusXM not shutting down yet?

They are kept alive by how annoying it is to cancel the service and avoid future 'complimentary' reactivations.

Re: Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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The adapter may still function over Bluetooth to read SAE PID [1] data using OBD Fusion[1] or a similar app. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II_PIDs [2] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/obd-fusion/id650684932

According to their App Store description:

> We no longer recommend using the Automatic car adapter due to reliability issues.

Do you happen to know if this is real or just a CYA? I'd pay $10 to extend the life of my adapter, but not if I needed to buy another device anyway.

Re: Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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Highly unlikely. The big money sink is already spent (launching the satelites).

The satellites are likely much cheaper than the ongoing costs for content. It looks like they are spending over $2B annually on content fees. They could launch a lot of satellites with $2B per year.

SpaceX should strike a deal with Spotify (StarLink “Constellation” as a competitor to SiriusXM)!

Re: Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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I always really liked this approach: Instead of every car smart by replacing them, make dumb cars (a bit) smarter with a connected device. Even once pitched a competitor to this service. That said, I'm wondering what the impact of Covid was on this: A regular SAAS service shouldn't see a huge impact, or would all customers cancel when not using their car for a month?

I suspect they weren't doing well and are using this as a cover. With many states opening up as we speak, the could have ridden out a small down turn and come out the other end. You might argue that a lot of people are going to be without work and won't be buying new cars in the next while, however, were those their customers in the first place?

Re: Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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I always really liked this approach: Instead of every car smart by replacing them, make dumb cars (a bit) smarter with a connected device. Even once pitched a competitor to this service. That said, I'm wondering what the impact of Covid was on this: A regular SAAS service shouldn't see a huge impact, or would all customers cancel when not using their car for a month?

I've been thinking for a while now that we could expect to see a lot of "incredible journeys" for which COVID-19 is both the stated reason, and a very useful cover for the true causes. Not speculating on whether this is one of those, but I'll admit I wouldn't be astonished if it were.

Re: Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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They made my unit end of life, and then found themselves at end of life. This is IoT.

And that’s why the only IoT devices I’ll buy use Zigbee (ZWave works too). You can’t shut down a device that I control internet access to. Sadly this doesn’t scale, it takes specialized skills and time to build out home automation using these technologies.

Same here, I wouldn't touch wifi-devices unless I there was no other alternative (not been the case yet with the exception of my robot vacuum but it runs on a schedule anyways and I manually trigger it 1-5 times a year). Z-wave all the way. I'm currently a SmartThings user but I'm sort of considering switching to Hubitat. Probably wait till my existing hub dies or ST does something shady/anti-consumer.

Re: Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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The adapter may still function over Bluetooth to read SAE PID [1] data using OBD Fusion[1] or a similar app. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II_PIDs [2] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/obd-fusion/id650684932

According to their App Store description: > We no longer recommend using the Automatic car adapter due to reliability issues. Do you happen to know if this is real or just a CYA? I'd pay $10 to extend the life of my adapter, but not if I needed to buy another device anyway.

Former VP Eng @ Automatic here :( There is an auth component needed for that BT connectivity to work - once the token expires, the BT connection won't authenticate anymore.

i.e. if you uninstall the BT apps, change phone etc...

Re: Automatic (Car Adapter) Shutting Down

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I just bought one of these about a month ago, I read about how the company had just discontinued the old version of the product in the reviews on Google play of their app figured I'd have some decent time with it since they just rolled out the version I bought... Jokes on me! Any chance there's some way we could get the data out of them with something open source?

They do seem to have an export feature[1]. The dashboard has been "Loading trips..." for minutes to download into a CSV a measly number 2K trips I had. I'm sorry that people are losing jobs over such closure, but usually the writing is on the wall. [1]: https://help.automatic.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000599847-Ho...

Sorry - the servers are overloaded right now with everyone grabbing their data. And yes, we did scale things up! Hitting RDS limitations :(
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