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After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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Re: After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article states the White House recommended the vendor to New York.

I get that as chief executive, the president is ultimately responsible for everything, but is this literally where we're dumping the blame? The President failed to make sure the task force member who recommended the vendor had done his diligence and the state government was just 100% blindly trusting of the very same White House they claim to hate at every step of the way, therefore it's Trump's fault? What ever happ…

> claim to hate

Please don't fall prey to the emo journalism of the day. And don't rachet it up even farther. For the most part, these are professionals doing their jobs. There's been a lot more failure than typical, on both sides, in the face of an historical pandemic. But let's not demonize either side here, or assume that others do.

For the record, Trump does run the executive branch, and if one of its people pushed this through, it reflects horribly on his leadership and whoever eventually gets thrown under the bus.

But, this article doesn't bring much to the table in terms of sources. Doesn't make sense to point fingers until someone involved in the purchase does, without anonymity.

Re: After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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post #19

Lets use this as an opportunity to count how many countries actually managed to deliver on making brand new emergency ventilators during the emergency? I counted only three: Turkey — Baykar Biyovent, Pakistan — Kamra PakVent 1, India — Marutu Suzuki emergency ventilator. That's very few. Even if NYC government didn't dish those money to him, it would still be unrealistic to expect anybody being able to deliver on tha…

Didn't Tesla deliver new emergency ventilators?

I understand they purchased and supplied a cache of existing CPAP machines, which are neither useless nor newly manufactured ventilators.

Re: After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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post #17

It sounds like NY didn't do their job. NY pays millions of dollars to these companies and none of them deliver any ventilators because NY didn't do any due diligence. This one guy gets called out because a NY state official claims he came at the "direct recommendation of the White House." This makes no sense, but Buzzfeed rolls with it, and it's likely CYA for the state official to pass the blame onto the federal gov…

"After this article was published, a spokesperson for Pence, Katie Miller, said in a statement that "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract and was not involved in it at all."

Re: After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you want? President doing the background check of the company from which NY is buying few thousand ventilators from?

"The guy was recommended to us by the White House coronavirus task force" If the Task Force recommended someone, yes you expect that they aren't recommending scammers.

If you check the article, there is now an update where a spokesman for the white house denies there was ever any contact or recommendation from the coronavirus task force.

Re: After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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post #17

It sounds like NY didn't do their job. NY pays millions of dollars to these companies and none of them deliver any ventilators because NY didn't do any due diligence. This one guy gets called out because a NY state official claims he came at the "direct recommendation of the White House." This makes no sense, but Buzzfeed rolls with it, and it's likely CYA for the state official to pass the blame onto the federal gov…

"After this article was published, a spokesperson for Pence, Katie Miller, said in a statement that "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract and was not involved in it at all."

It seems far more likely the WHCTF gave a blanket recommendation like "get ventilators where you can, ASAP, don't focus on due diligence" and that statement is being used as cover for bad picks.

Re: After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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post #17

It sounds like NY didn't do their job. NY pays millions of dollars to these companies and none of them deliver any ventilators because NY didn't do any due diligence. This one guy gets called out because a NY state official claims he came at the "direct recommendation of the White House." This makes no sense, but Buzzfeed rolls with it, and it's likely CYA for the state official to pass the blame onto the federal gov…

"After this article was published, a spokesperson for Pence, Katie Miller, said in a statement that "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract and was not involved in it at all."

And of course that note is at the bottom of the article.

This is a perfect example of fake news. Deep down there is a story of incompetence and duress on the part of NY State, but instead it’s presented to the public as yet another made up anti-Trump circle jerk.

Re: After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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post #19

Lets use this as an opportunity to count how many countries actually managed to deliver on making brand new emergency ventilators during the emergency? I counted only three: Turkey — Baykar Biyovent, Pakistan — Kamra PakVent 1, India — Marutu Suzuki emergency ventilator. That's very few. Even if NYC government didn't dish those money to him, it would still be unrealistic to expect anybody being able to deliver on tha…

Didn't Tesla deliver new emergency ventilators?

No new news about Tesla assembled Medtronic ventilators so far since April 10

Re: After One Tweet, This Man Got $69M from New York for Ventilators

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The guy was recommended to us by the White House coronavirus task force" If the Task Force recommended someone, yes you expect that they aren't recommending scammers.

If you check the article, there is now an update where a spokesman for the white house denies there was ever any contact or recommendation from the coronavirus task force.

Oh. Well, if a White House spokesperson denies an allegation then I guess the matter is settled. No reason for concern at all.
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