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Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market

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Again?

It seems like we get this story every week.

I think we actually got that exact same comment on the last version of this story I saw. I assume next week we'll get this one as well, and so on. :-)

The story was news at some point, at least. It's a major milestone in the mobile OS wars.

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I hope this serves as a wakeup call to Apple, that their position is not so unassailable that they can continue looking for new ways to drive away partners and developers without consequences.

Why? Apple makes much of the profit. A report claims that Apple makes with 4% global market share 50% of the profits: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/31/apples_4_mobil... Google does not even really sell a phone. Google sells you, the user.

They currently make most of the profit. But with declining market share puts those profits in severe danger in the future.

And god, if I never heard the "Google sells you" line again, it would be too soon. Apple has an ad platform too, you know.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they did, though, it would make sense. Apple's business model is to make money by selling hardware; Google's is to make money by selling advertising.

> Google's is to make money by selling advertising. They also collect licensing fees when phone makers use the Android name, Google trademarks and Google's software in the phones. I assume their foray into mobile phones is to fragment the market and prevent any other player from gaining a dominant market share.

They also collect licensing fees when phone makers use the Android name, Google trademarks and Google's software in the phones.

Is that accurate? Everything I've seen has indicated that if anything money moves the other way - Google sharing revenue on platform ads (and possibly other services) with oems and carriers. I haven't seen anyone claim that oems pay licensing fees to google for google apps and trademarks - I believe they are use granted based on platform spec compliance.

I assume their foray into mobile phones is to fragment the market and prevent any other player from gaining a dominant market share.

While undoubtedly google doesn't want another player to dominate the market, I believe the primary goals for android were to increase global pageviews, drive mobile adoption, and to avoid large upfront costs of paying for placement as the default search engine.

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Somewhat off-topic: is there any reason not to get Virgin Mobile's $150 LG Optimus V for the purpose of exploring Android development? Aside from smaller memory and lower-res camera, it looks like I don't miss out on anything from top of the line models.

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Interesting sidebar in the comscore report: In the continuously contentious debate as to whether the future of mobile apps are downloaded or browser-based, we see a gain in both, but native apps seems to have had a marginal edge in gain.

Would be cool to see this data over a longer window.

Used browser; 36.2%; 37.0%; 0.8 Used downloaded apps; 33.7%; 35.3%; 1.6

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I hope this serves as a wakeup call to Apple, that their position is not so unassailable that they can continue looking for new ways to drive away partners and developers without consequences.

Why? Apple makes much of the profit. A report claims that Apple makes with 4% global market share 50% of the profits: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/31/apples_4_mobil... Google does not even really sell a phone. Google sells you, the user.

The point of the grandparent's post was this:

>that their position is not so unassailable that they can continue looking for new ways to drive away partners and developers without consequences

I think most everyone wants more competition to keep any single company from being abusive, but your response to this is essentially "Apple is still #1!" I don't understand what you are saying here. Is it that you think Apple isn't really under any pressure? That you don't want them to make their developer/partner deals more generous?

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Somewhat off-topic: is there any reason not to get Virgin Mobile's $150 LG Optimus V for the purpose of exploring Android development? Aside from smaller memory and lower-res camera, it looks like I don't miss out on anything from top of the line models.

I've played with one, it is a very acceptable phone and a fine dev platform. I think it's a good idea.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Apple makes much of the profit. A report claims that Apple makes with 4% global market share 50% of the profits: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/31/apples_4_mobil... Google does not even really sell a phone. Google sells you, the user.

They currently make most of the profit. But with declining market share puts those profits in severe danger in the future. And god, if I never heard the "Google sells you" line again, it would be too soon. Apple has an ad platform too, you know.

"But with declining market share puts those profits in severe danger in the future."

What declining market share?

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Somewhat off-topic: is there any reason not to get Virgin Mobile's $150 LG Optimus V for the purpose of exploring Android development? Aside from smaller memory and lower-res camera, it looks like I don't miss out on anything from top of the line models.

Thats exactly what I got it for and it turns out that its a good little phone. The resistive touch works more accurately for me than other phones of the same size and the battery lasts me 3 days most of the time.

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This is so funny. Android is gaining it's share and everyone is trying to create iPhone killer. Noone is doing an Android killer:)

It's because all Android has done is blurred the line between smart phone and feature phone. It's Android phones now that are the free and BOGO phones and that's exactly what Google wants--a base out there that they cannot be excluded from for their primary business, advertising.

ex.: http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/110303_andro...

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