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Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

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Especially while unemployment is paying $2400/month on top of your normal payment. Many workers are better off just being temporarily laid off and getting a pay raise.

$2400/month is less than $30k/year. I highly doubt any of the people getting laid of from Patreon are getting a raise by going on unemployment.

$2400/month is the amount on top of your unemployment pay. Maximum in WA state puts you at $55k/year with the bonus amount.

Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

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This is interesting given that, like the article suggests, patron contributions were still growing last month. Seems like they either wanted an excuse to "right-size" and this is a great opportunity, or they're expecting a significant hit to patron contributions on the back of mass unemployment, which would make the rest of the year rather painful.

I ain't seeing it. I saw significantly more patron contributions. I guess maybe there's a danger I am just that awesome? ;P the general sense I get is people tend to rally around their creators, and I would imagine that happens across the board, and not just in special cases.

Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

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Non-shit link: http://archive.is/zsdOS

Really wish archive.is and Cloudflare could get over their problems, since I use cloudflare's DNS resolver, none of these links work. Oh well.

Thank you, I had no idea that's why these links haven't been loading. Just switched back to google's resolver (8.8.8.8).

Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

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>This company never made sense to me from a “venture scale” perspective. It’s big, sure, but are the financials really ever going to be strong enough to go public? I guess I don’t see it. It looks like the company's biggest creator brings roughly $5k a month for Patreon and only one other creator has their financials public and brings in even 40% of that [1]. There is certainly money to be made in that business, but…

Patron seems like a classic long tail situation. The fall off to 100th place is only 1/7th the number of subscribers and 1000th place ~1/37th the number of subscribers as first place. Patreon’s fees range from 5-12% so they could easily be making more make more money from the 10,000 to 100,000 creators than they do the top 10,000. Further, people can hide earnings which makes estimates of their finances difficult.

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Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

#25

This is interesting given that, like the article suggests, patron contributions were still growing last month. Seems like they either wanted an excuse to "right-size" and this is a great opportunity, or they're expecting a significant hit to patron contributions on the back of mass unemployment, which would make the rest of the year rather painful.

I ain't seeing it. I saw significantly more patron contributions. I guess maybe there's a danger I am just that awesome? ;P the general sense I get is people tend to rally around their creators, and I would imagine that happens across the board, and not just in special cases.

Yeah, I subbed to a couple new people after seeing them talk about losing other work. Obviously, anecdotal, but hoped others followed suit.

Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

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Really wish archive.is and Cloudflare could get over their problems, since I use cloudflare's DNS resolver, none of these links work. Oh well.

Thank you, I had no idea that's why these links haven't been loading. Just switched back to google's resolver (8.8.8.8).

Yeah, you can find more information on this standoff here:

https://twitter.com/archiveis/status/1018691421182791680

There's some HN posts about it as well.

Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

#27
post #6

Non-shit link: http://archive.is/zsdOS

Really wish archive.is and Cloudflare could get over their problems, since I use cloudflare's DNS resolver, none of these links work. Oh well.

Saying this as a Cloudflare investor, CF is in the wrong here and not spec compliant.

Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

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post #13

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>This company never made sense to me from a “venture scale” perspective. It’s big, sure, but are the financials really ever going to be strong enough to go public? I guess I don’t see it. It looks like the company's biggest creator brings roughly $5k a month for Patreon and only one other creator has their financials public and brings in even 40% of that [1]. There is certainly money to be made in that business, but…

Patron seems like a classic long tail situation. The fall off to 100th place is only 1/7th the number of subscribers and 1000th place ~1/37th the number of subscribers as first place. Patreon’s fees range from 5-12% so they could easily be making more make more money from the 10,000 to 100,000 creators than they do the top 10,000. Further, people can hide earnings which makes estimates of their finances difficult.

Something like 350 of the top 1000 creators have their financials public. There are several in that list that likely bring in less than $100 per month for Patreon. That tail has to be pretty long and flat to justify 230 employees and any hope of the type of growth that many investors demand.

Re: Patreon lays off 13% of workforce

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post #27

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Really wish archive.is and Cloudflare could get over their problems, since I use cloudflare's DNS resolver, none of these links work. Oh well.

Saying this as a Cloudflare investor, CF is in the wrong here and not spec compliant.

It's outside of my expertise. I just know that both sides have opinions and there's backers for both. Would be nice if there was an alternative to archive.is - outline?
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