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Re: Privacy Not Included

#21

This is a good resource, but the presentation needs work. The big emoji smiley face on top implies that all the products listed below are "good," but you have to actually click through on the product to see the actual rating (like Amazon's Ring Doorbell is rated by users as "Super Creepy"). The explanation of their Minimum Security Standards is pretty helpful and reasonable though: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p…

The smiley face actually changes as you scroll down. It’s kind of confusing

Re: Privacy Not Included

#22
post #6

This is great and helpful, thank you Mozilla! If anyone that worked on this reads this, a suggestion: Please rank products based on Mozilla's rating and not user supplied sentiment. For example, it's hard to make sense of products that are "very creepy" or "somewhat creepy" yet have 4/5 or 5/5 overall security rating from Mozilla. It's not clear unless you really look that creepiness rating is not from Mozilla.

Creepy is from users while Mozilla is the X/5. Basically stuff like google home people find creepy but Mozilla views it as 5/5 as good of security as you can get.

Re: Privacy Not Included

#23

This is a good resource, but the presentation needs work. The big emoji smiley face on top implies that all the products listed below are "good," but you have to actually click through on the product to see the actual rating (like Amazon's Ring Doorbell is rated by users as "Super Creepy"). The explanation of their Minimum Security Standards is pretty helpful and reasonable though: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p…

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Re: Privacy Not Included

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a normal internet user, they make it look like they endorse the product. The 'meets our minimum security standards' seal is still next to the product.

To you , who may be a normal internet user, it makes it seem like they endorse the product. I didn't see that at all. (Plus, a "normal internet user" has no idea how Mozilla makes money.)

But they are endorsing the products the creepy is the user rating not Mozilla's.

Re: Privacy Not Included

#25
I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site...

These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings.

General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it, and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is this product affordable?" "Yes." All stand in's for good. So if you ask a general user if something is creepy, the answer you will get back is either "It's good" or "It's bad".

These aren't products that meet rigorous privacy guidelines, or are open source, or products from companies that go out of their way to keep their services zero-knowledge. This is a popularity contest page. This is not the place to get advice on privacy respecting products.

Take note on what guidelines Mozilla here seems to establish, one of them is hilariously: "Privacy Policy. Yes they have one"

Re: Privacy Not Included

#26
post #25

I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site... These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings. General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it , and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is…

Does anything not have a privacy policy?

Re: Privacy Not Included

#27

The UI is quite bizarre. The "not creepy" face changes based on scroll position , not what you point at. It's unclear which products it's even referring to. I don't understand why they didn't display an ordinary table with checkboxes for each security feature.

Not only that, but several of the "Very Creepy" items have a star with a laurel wreath around it, like it's won some sort of award for being not creepy on the site. WTF?

Re: Privacy Not Included

#29

This is a good resource, but the presentation needs work. The big emoji smiley face on top implies that all the products listed below are "good," but you have to actually click through on the product to see the actual rating (like Amazon's Ring Doorbell is rated by users as "Super Creepy"). The explanation of their Minimum Security Standards is pretty helpful and reasonable though: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p…

Seemed intuitive to me. It's a descending listing of least creepy to most creepy - the emoji changes as you scroll to denote this. If you leave the page and return the emoji will show as a smile until you scroll again, regardless of location on the page, but otherwise I don't see your first point.

Re: Privacy Not Included

#30
This page wasn't immediately clear to me. I have a lot of third party requests blocked when most pages load. Looking at this a first the fact they're organized from less creepy to most creepy was lost. The page just appeared to be seals of mozila approval and a smiling face above products. see https://imgur.com/a/48a8QmX

I had to enable a script hosted on mofoprod.com to get the smiling face to indicate that products were voted as creepy. Also voiting options did show.

Text explaining that users are rating products and they are ordered by creppy rating could be helpful.

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