This is a good resource, but the presentation needs work. The big emoji smiley face on top implies that all the products listed below are "good," but you have to actually click through on the product to see the actual rating (like Amazon's Ring Doorbell is rated by users as "Super Creepy"). The explanation of their Minimum Security Standards is pretty helpful and reasonable though: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p…
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#22This is great and helpful, thank you Mozilla! If anyone that worked on this reads this, a suggestion: Please rank products based on Mozilla's rating and not user supplied sentiment. For example, it's hard to make sense of products that are "very creepy" or "somewhat creepy" yet have 4/5 or 5/5 overall security rating from Mozilla. It's not clear unless you really look that creepiness rating is not from Mozilla.
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#23This is a good resource, but the presentation needs work. The big emoji smiley face on top implies that all the products listed below are "good," but you have to actually click through on the product to see the actual rating (like Amazon's Ring Doorbell is rated by users as "Super Creepy"). The explanation of their Minimum Security Standards is pretty helpful and reasonable though: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p…
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
To a normal internet user, they make it look like they endorse the product. The 'meets our minimum security standards' seal is still next to the product.
To you , who may be a normal internet user, it makes it seem like they endorse the product. I didn't see that at all. (Plus, a "normal internet user" has no idea how Mozilla makes money.)
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#25These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings.
General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it, and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is this product affordable?" "Yes." All stand in's for good. So if you ask a general user if something is creepy, the answer you will get back is either "It's good" or "It's bad".
These aren't products that meet rigorous privacy guidelines, or are open source, or products from companies that go out of their way to keep their services zero-knowledge. This is a popularity contest page. This is not the place to get advice on privacy respecting products.
Take note on what guidelines Mozilla here seems to establish, one of them is hilariously: "Privacy Policy. Yes they have one"
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#26I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site... These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings. General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it , and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is…
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#27The UI is quite bizarre. The "not creepy" face changes based on scroll position , not what you point at. It's unclear which products it's even referring to. I don't understand why they didn't display an ordinary table with checkboxes for each security feature.
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#29This is a good resource, but the presentation needs work. The big emoji smiley face on top implies that all the products listed below are "good," but you have to actually click through on the product to see the actual rating (like Amazon's Ring Doorbell is rated by users as "Super Creepy"). The explanation of their Minimum Security Standards is pretty helpful and reasonable though: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p…
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#30I had to enable a script hosted on mofoprod.com to get the smiling face to indicate that products were voted as creepy. Also voiting options did show.
Text explaining that users are rating products and they are ordered by creppy rating could be helpful.