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Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.

It's google, so probably they have at least 3 and one of them will be deprecated every year

Duo, Meets and Hangouts... off the top of my head.

With various levels of being merged or not.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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post #19

What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.

Some employees had it installed on corp devices, maybe to connect with their friends and families. Google has banned even installing that app on corp devices. Nobody used it for corp work.

Corporate devices should be for work. Especially if you're sheltering-in-place anyway and you're not even physically at the office.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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post #6

What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.

What do you use when Hangouts is down to discuss fixing Hangouts? :)

Its not like Google doesn't have a half-dozen other chat services...

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's frustrating because Google Hangouts used to be great, and then Google purposefully started cannibalizing their own platform. I really want to know what goes on within Product Management at Google, because looking from the outside in I cannot imagine anything other than sheer incompetence.

The rumors from inside Google is that there's no way to get credit/be rewarded as an employee simply for maintaining an existing solution, or even for fixing obvious breakage. Every incentive is tilted towards starting new projects, often multiple projects in the same domain directly competing with one another. There are some positives to this of course, but clearly it's being overdone.

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Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.

> What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before.

> They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.

If an engineer from Microsoft has to speak to an engineer from Google, and you think they should both be dog-fooding their own video application... how do you see that working? Just both dig their feet in and never talk to each other? Seems silly to me.

One or both are going to have to install a video application that isn't their own aren't they?

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some employees had it installed on corp devices, maybe to connect with their friends and families. Google has banned even installing that app on corp devices. Nobody used it for corp work.

Corporate devices should be for work. Especially if you're sheltering-in-place anyway and you're not even physically at the office.

It's surprisingly common for people not to own a non-work computer other than a phone/tablet, especially now that prevalence of desktop computers is declining. Some people do still have a home desktop, or a separate personal laptop, but a lot of people I know don't. Or they might have one but it's a shared family computer that's mostly used by the kids, while parents use their work laptops.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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post #16

What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.

As someone who uses Google Meets daily, dogfood is the right word.

Really? I've started using it more and more recently and it seems pretty good. Dependent on good Internet connectivity like anything else but otherwise it seems straightforward and streamlined--which IMO describes Gsuite in general.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

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post #16

What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.

As someone who uses Google Meets daily, dogfood is the right word.

Same, for kid's school. It's awful. Feels abandoned.

Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers

#30
God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool!

I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.

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