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Re: Apple Faceshield

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Chinese knockoffs already available on Amazon

That is a good thing - Apple clearly isn't making them as even a revenue making object, let alone a profit center, so I can't imagine they'll object to others also manufacturing them.

The goal at the moment for global manufacturing to produce PPE and masks in huge numbers as fast as possible. Not to create new sources of revenue.

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I’m sad that even though this unique design was done and put online for anyone to print by Prusa, he is hardly mentioned now. On top of that, the design is already commercialized. EDIT: I see now that the design is different, you’re right

Looking at the pursa video, its a different design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP7z3iw76GA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by: > On top of that, the design is already commercialized.

I mean that if you check Amazon, companies are making money of it. It’s great that it’s getting out just not so great that it’s selling with fat margin on top.

I get what you are saying, but there have to be incentives for manufacturers to start making them. A fat margin at first will do that. If it's an open design, manufacturing competition will swiftly reduce that fat margin.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by: > On top of that, the design is already commercialized.

I mean that if you check Amazon, companies are making money of it. It’s great that it’s getting out just not so great that it’s selling with fat margin on top.

What's stopping anyone from printing and selling them at parity or at a loss?

It's not like you can print out that Apple page on your ink jet printer and wear it.

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Context: https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/5/21209270/apple-face-shield... “Our first shipment was delivered to Kaiser hospital facilities in the Santa Clara Valley this past week, and the feedback from doctors was very positive,” Cook says. “These pack flat, one hundred per box. Each shield is assembled in less than two minutes and is fully adjustable. We’re sourcing materials and manufacturing in the US and China.” A…

I was hoping everyone in the US might be able to buy one. Ideally, they'd be cheap enough for municipalities to buy and distribute.

Why? Most ordinary non-healthcare-worker people have no need for this level of PPE, especially if they're following social distances rules like they should be.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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I’m sad that even though this unique design was done and put online for anyone to print by Prusa, he is hardly mentioned now. On top of that, the design is already commercialized. EDIT: I see now that the design is different, you’re right

I'd guess this is the face shield you're referring to: https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/25857-prusa-face-shield

It's awesome that Prusa designed and open sourced face shields. Apple seems to have improved on those designs - to me, that's exactly the point of open source.

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I’m sad that even though this unique design was done and put online for anyone to print by Prusa, he is hardly mentioned now. On top of that, the design is already commercialized. EDIT: I see now that the design is different, you’re right

How do you mean? This Apple design looks very different from any that I can find attributed to "Prusa" (not sure if that's a person or a company, but the company put out 3D print designs that are very different). And all of them, of course, copy shields that were out long before the current crisis.

A lot of people were prototyping shields to satisfy a sudden and overwhelming demand, and with 3D printers it seemed like dozens of variations appeared overnight. I don't think attribution is a big concern.

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This is impressive, compared to what traditional health companies like Pharma are doing.

The latter seem mostly to update existing products like faster tests or trying to develop vaccines.

Whereas it’s the tech companies which are going a bit beyond their traditional business: Apple making face masks, Google and Apple making screening websites (other examples?)

All of which could be done by traditional health companies, but unfortunately innovation is not their strength. Need to be disrupted!

And no surprise from Apple, since Tim Cook has said before: “Apple’s biggest contribution to mankind will be in healthcare” and they are doing a lot more than these face masks.

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#30

It would be great if they could make face shields that are dishwasher safe.

Is there any plastic that is actually dishwasher safe? I thought just about all of it started leaching when exposed to high temperatures.

The inside of my dishwasher is made out of plastic, so I'd assume there'd have to be.
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