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Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by samename »

gfodor wrote: post #5

Consider using avatar chat, which has been shown to be able to deliver social presence, esp w VR. https://extendedmind.io/blog/2020/3/20/video-conferencing-wo... Example of a house party thrown in hubs: https://www.facebook.com/1365390312/posts/10216647011272117/...

I’m not familiar with avatar chat, but it does seem VR would solve some of the problems mentioned in the article (seeing the whole body, meaningful interactions, side conversations). The problem with VR is it’s not widely used at the moment. Maybe this will change as a result?

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Post by jonnydubowsky »

blhack wrote: post #4

We’ve been running “dial up dance parties” in Phoenix for the last few weeks. A DJ streams music to a zoom hangout, and people dance in front of their camera. The magic bit is that there is a new curation job beyond djing: curating who is be “spotlighted” at the current time. So my and my wife’s job (we have been organizing and promoting these parties) is to watch all of the participants and pick out who should get s…

Cool concept! Are people paying to attend the event?

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Post by breeny592 »

snikch wrote: post #13

I've been thinking about this too. In fact I've started hacking on an app to solve this for my group of friends. To me the two primary issues are: 1. Sub groups without losing the context of the full group. I want to focus on a set of people and chat with them while also aware of what other groups are around. I want to be able to bring people into these groups at will. This also adds a gamification aspect where you c…

What if your chatting was also at a lower volume for other groups so if one group organically disbands, can pre-hear what some groups are talking about to join in. Feels like a pretty natural experience in social gatherings.

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Post by stagas »

aantix wrote: post #15

TurnTable Live was out briefly (after TurnTable.fm closed). I always thought it had a really cool party atmosphere for concerts. Here's a video of a concert that I took. No audio, unfortunately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08SvwB9S53U

TurnTable was awesome! Forgotten about it, thanks!

Edit: didn't know about Live, but the original[0] one, TurnTable.fm with the avatars was really a fantastic place to be in the Internet. So sad to see it end, but maybe someone can revive it?

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPCWSL52uVU

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by hobs »

nitrogen wrote: post #20
jvm___ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a jit.si post on here where someone made a 2d map. If you were standing close to them on the map you heard the if voice. Further away people were ignored.

If I remember right there was an app from the early 2000s that did something kind of like this. It would be cool to combine the 2D map with a speech-to-text word cloud over clusters of people so you could see if you wanted to join another conversation.

Mumble has positional audio for game stuff - https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Positional-Audio its also extremely low resource usage and you can install/manage it yourself.

I really prefer it to discord/whatever other voice client because you can also do stuff like hierarchical broadcasting, a parent channel can broadcast to children without children broadcasting back.

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by stagas »

There are two types of partying: raving and clubbing.

Clubbing, is for extroverts who enjoy socializing and being on the spotlight. Clubs have lots of lights, people dress in shiny colors and seek to bring attention to themselves. Camera sharing is the ideal format for this.

Raving, is for introverts. The setting is dark, people wear black and usually prefer to be left on their own and focus internally and in the music. It's a way to enjoy a social situation without being overwhelmed by the crowd. Avatars and virtual worlds is the ideal format for this.

Of course, I am generalizing here but I'm simply trying to make a point. An extrovert will not enjoy a setting where they can't draw attention to themselves. An introvert will not enjoy a setting where being in the spotlight is the default mode.

Speaking only by my own experience as being an introvert-extrovert and attending both clubs and raves I can tell you that there is minimal overlap in the crowds. A different type of people is in clubs and a different type of people is in raves. Generalizing both as "partying" is confusing, at least.

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Post by conception »

jvm___ wrote: post #19
snikch wrote: post #13

I've been thinking about this too. In fact I've started hacking on an app to solve this for my group of friends. To me the two primary issues are: 1. Sub groups without losing the context of the full group. I want to focus on a set of people and chat with them while also aware of what other groups are around. I want to be able to bring people into these groups at will. This also adds a gamification aspect where you c…

There was a jit.si post on here where someone made a 2d map. If you were standing close to them on the map you heard the if voice. Further away people were ignored.

https://meet.primrosevr.com/#FromGithub

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by conception »

blhack wrote: post #4

We’ve been running “dial up dance parties” in Phoenix for the last few weeks. A DJ streams music to a zoom hangout, and people dance in front of their camera. The magic bit is that there is a new curation job beyond djing: curating who is be “spotlighted” at the current time. So my and my wife’s job (we have been organizing and promoting these parties) is to watch all of the participants and pick out who should get s…

JQBX might be of interest to you. Let’s people dj Spotify playlists at the same time. So everyone can be on their own device, listening to their own music but all listening to the same song at the same time. Might help with timing/lag etc.

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Post by crooked-v »

stagas wrote: post #26

There are two types of partying: raving and clubbing. Clubbing, is for extroverts who enjoy socializing and being on the spotlight. Clubs have lots of lights, people dress in shiny colors and seek to bring attention to themselves. Camera sharing is the ideal format for this. Raving, is for introverts. The setting is dark, people wear black and usually prefer to be left on their own and focus internally and in the mus…

As an introvert, I've found that I'm actually much more uncomfortable with group video chats than with interacting with people in person, in part because of the impossibility of escaping attention without that escape itself becoming obvious. I've had no such problems with voice chat, though.

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by crooked-v »

jvm___ wrote: post #19
snikch wrote: post #13

I've been thinking about this too. In fact I've started hacking on an app to solve this for my group of friends. To me the two primary issues are: 1. Sub groups without losing the context of the full group. I want to focus on a set of people and chat with them while also aware of what other groups are around. I want to be able to bring people into these groups at will. This also adds a gamification aspect where you c…

There was a jit.si post on here where someone made a 2d map. If you were standing close to them on the map you heard the if voice. Further away people were ignored.

There are a few Minecraft mods that implement this kind of behavior, and I could swear I saw it baked into a shooter game somewhere but I can't remember which one.
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