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'W' Considered Harmful

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Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

#21
In French, W is not expressed as "Double U", but as "Double V", which to me makes much more sense.

However it appears infrequently in written French -- the "w" sound, as it would be spoken in English, is written "ou" (eg "oui"). But in French, the letter w is only really seen in loanwords.

As a pun hack, run together Us. I refer to my university as Triple-U A.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

#22
Funny how it's a non-problem for some other languages, like Portuguese.

While English allows you to naturally create whole sentences using one-syllable words, it's horribly hard to even put two one-syllable words side-by-side in Portuguese.

That, and "W" takes only two syllables to pronounce, making the grand total six in an URL, the same number required to spell the dots (our domains end with ".com.br", making it three times the two-syllable word "ponto"). And now I remember "W" was not even officially considered a letter until recently, so abbreviations with it are rare.

Before considering a letter harmful, please mind the rest of the world that is also using it.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

#23
post #17

In rapid speech I find that 'W' is said less like 'dub ull yew' and more like 'dub uhya', and the 'uhya' is so compressed it's hardly like two distinct syllables. But that might be my Texas showing.

In Minnesota, they always stretch out the dub-ull-yew. However, "rapid speech" is not something you'd ever encounter there.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

#24

In French, W is not expressed as "Double U", but as "Double V", which to me makes much more sense. However it appears infrequently in written French -- the "w" sound, as it would be spoken in English, is written "ou" (eg "oui"). But in French, the letter w is only really seen in loanwords. As a pun hack, run together Us. I refer to my university as Triple-U A.

Spanish also pronounces it as "Double V", though I can't say anything about the frequency of it throughout the language.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

#25

In French, W is not expressed as "Double U", but as "Double V", which to me makes much more sense. However it appears infrequently in written French -- the "w" sound, as it would be spoken in English, is written "ou" (eg "oui"). But in French, the letter w is only really seen in loanwords. As a pun hack, run together Us. I refer to my university as Triple-U A.

Spanish also pronounces it as "Double V", though I can't say anything about the frequency of it throughout the language.

Interesting, it might be a Romance language thing. Paging linguists! Paging all HN linguists!

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spanish also pronounces it as "Double V", though I can't say anything about the frequency of it throughout the language.

Interesting, it might be a Romance language thing. Paging linguists! Paging all HN linguists!

In dutch, W is pronounced more or less like you would pronounce 'wey' but without the 'y' sound at the end. (the actual sound doesn't exist in english afaik)

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

#29
post #20

I found W's multisyllabic name annoying enough that I began calling it "way". That includes the sound it makes, and it rhymes with A, J, and K.

Interesting choice :) The letter 'W' is called a 'way' (English pronounciation) in Dutch.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

#30
I have often wondered about a chicago business named W W Grainger, but alas it appears that they did not go for www.ww.grainger.com, opting instead for www.grainger.com.
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