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Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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Also, how does he know that number-containing strings will work if the title isn't "Test123"??

"0123Test" is a better number-containing string for testing, to catch out things that try to interpret the string as a number first and then as a string if that fails. For example, JS's insane parseInt function will give you 123 for "0123Test".

Wow, I learned something in here and I was just "trolling" in the test thread!

Thanks!

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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Ok, since this is getting attention, I'll explain. Launch HN posts for YC startups are one of three formal things that HN does for YC ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... ). The others are job ads for YC startups, and orange usernames for YC alumni—but only when displayed to other YC alumni, which always generates "why is my username not orange" emails. But I digress. Launch HNs are like…

One thing I always wanted to ask if why do job ads not allow comments? I'm guessing its to prevent negative comments/trolling (we get plenty of 'this will never work' on Launch/Show posts), but at the same time I feel like comments on job ads could be a good way for the founders and existing employees (tell us why you as a meager developer are excited to work there!) to interact with the HN community.

What _-___________-_ said. The short version: job ads are boring. The long version:

If job ads were threads, each thread would be a generic referendum on the company. Worse, it would be the same referendum over and over.

Job ads are boring, so there would be nothing to discuss other than how one feels about the company. That's boring except to the people with strong feelings, and those tend to be negative on the internet, so the threads would fill up with negative generic comments.

I believe that the hivemind resents boring things, such as submissions where the only new information is "X is hiring", so it gets cranky and fills the vacuum with indignation, basically as the only way to amuse itself in the absence of anything interesting to discuss. It doesn't want to, it just doesn't know any better way to have fun in a vacuum.

In practice, what this would look like in a job thread is "I applied in 2015 and never heard back", plus—if there has ever been a negative story X about the company—every variation of X, X, X, repeated increasingly snarkily.

Building a business is a long slog. One needs to hire more often than one has scintillating new information for the community to have fun discussing. Therefore, each successive job ad would be even more boring than the previous one, leading to monotonically increasing resentment. Repetition is the enemy of curiosity.

Launch posts don't suffer from this dynamic because by definition, the startup is new, so there's something new to discuss.

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I always wanted to ask if why do job ads not allow comments? I'm guessing its to prevent negative comments/trolling (we get plenty of 'this will never work' on Launch/Show posts), but at the same time I feel like comments on job ads could be a good way for the founders and existing employees (tell us why you as a meager developer are excited to work there!) to interact with the HN community.

Job ads in the "who is hiring" threads generally only attract comments of one of a few types: "I applied to this place and they never got back to me" "Thanks, I applied" "Please add salary/remoteness/interview process to your job ad" "You have a typo in your text/email address/website URL"

The latter two comments seem pretty useful feedback though

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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Thank you, the registrations are now open but each signup incurs a cost (for the SMS) and the budget is currently limited hence the notice. I'll get in touch asap.

Sending even tens of thousands of SMS is very cheap, just how limited is that budget? :)

A few hundred people with US numbers should be able to sign up, but sending SMS overseas is much more expensive. For example, sending to Switzerland: $0.069 per SMS.

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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Is dang an acronym or does it represent the word we say when disappointed with a certain outcome?

I picked it because (1) it's my first name plus surname initial; (2) it was my email address at my first job; and (3) it's what you say when you make a mistake—so yup, you guessed it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494093 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18513120

I always imagined you looked like the weirdo in the window seat with different sized eyeballs, who he was addressing as "Dang".

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f8/74/40/f8744035e15d69eb8fd4c70de...

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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I'll use this as an opportunity to ask something.

Are there any stats how many active users does HN have, on how many servers it runs, on which database etc.?

Because I have recently wanted to look at my older saved/upvoted posts/comments on reddit and found out that you can look only at last 1000 posts and it does various other things to save resources. HN doesn't seem to do things like that and still feels much snappier than reddit (yes reddit has much more users, but still impressive imho).

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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Is dang an acronym or does it represent the word we say when disappointed with a certain outcome?

I picked it because (1) it's my first name plus surname initial; (2) it was my email address at my first job; and (3) it's what you say when you make a mistake—so yup, you guessed it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494093 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18513120

Whoa! I love the second link! Is there an orchestrated horizontally-scaled secure decentralized web service I could use to bookmark all the dang cartoons?!

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Job ads in the "who is hiring" threads generally only attract comments of one of a few types: "I applied to this place and they never got back to me" "Thanks, I applied" "Please add salary/remoteness/interview process to your job ad" "You have a typo in your text/email address/website URL"

The latter two comments seem pretty useful feedback though

But not interesting.

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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Hi dang This was a good test but it failed some key characteristics to make it an excellent test message. You didn't put foo or bar anywhere in the test message. There was no Cthulhu phrases. Plus there was no pi or the numerical answer to the universe and everything. I trust you will take this onboard for the next test.

Needs more salty Russian Literature references!

This is new to me, is there a list of these quotes you can get?

Re: Tell HN: Launch HN Test

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I'll use this as an opportunity to ask something. Are there any stats how many active users does HN have, on how many servers it runs, on which database etc.? Because I have recently wanted to look at my older saved/upvoted posts/comments on reddit and found out that you can look only at last 1000 posts and it does various other things to save resources. HN doesn't seem to do things like that and still feels much sna…

Reddit is a hundred times bigger. It's not just that we aren't in their league...our league is not in their league. So the comparison is a little embarrassing.

It's hard to count active users because you have to define them in order to count them, and we make a point of not tracking people that much. We can count accounts and unique IPs, and that's about it. But it's basically about 5M readers a month, give or take, as far as we can tell. It grows linearly, with large swings. If you step back 10 feet from the graphs and squint, it's basically a straight line for the last 10 years. We like it that way; we wouldn't want to go full Haskell and avoid success at all costs, but we don't want hockey-stick growth either. HN is not a startup!

It runs on one server. Actually the app server (written in Arc) runs on one core. But we have some caching in front of that for logged-out users.

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