Yeah, hello, delete it.
Zoom monitors activity on your computer
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Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
These don't look that bad, but what's describe in a tweet (tracking focus app etc) is much worse, it doesn't seem to be in the privacy policy though (or they masked it?). So where's the information about focused window come from?
Your name, physical address, email address, phone number, employment, credit card, Facebook profile, IP address, MAC address, device ID...is not that bad?
How are they supposed to charge you for the service without your credit card billing information?
How is it supposed to work at all without your IP address?
Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
These don't look that bad, but what's describe in a tweet (tracking focus app etc) is much worse, it doesn't seem to be in the privacy policy though (or they masked it?). So where's the information about focused window come from?
Your name, physical address, email address, phone number, employment, credit card, Facebook profile, IP address, MAC address, device ID...is not that bad?
That data is either required to run or provided to them by you directly.
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#24Now is probably the worst possible time to reveal this news.
Because right now, people have much more pressing matters and need to communicate.
Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer
#25That’s why we have been building https://qbix.com/platform To have an open source alternative. Want videoconferencing on your own site? You can! See here for instance. https://yang2020.app/meeting We have a harder challenge of making all the SDP offers work cross browser, but Chrome should def work. Code: https://github.com/Qbix (If you like it, star it lol ⭐️) Contact me if you want to learn how to use the Qbix plat…
with everyone connecting from home, what percentage are behind a LAN firewall
From home? Essentially 100%.
that you need to use TURN servers?
That's less clear. I'm not sure how many home firewalls are impenetrable by STUN as well. I worked on Twilio's WebRTC-based audio product back in 2012-2014. In the beginning we only supported STUN. We did get some customer support requests about initial connection failures (which I mostly attributed to STUN failures), but never kept track of stats on what the success/fail ratio was. We eventually added TURN support (after I left that product team), but based on how long it took us to do that, my guess would be STUN was effective for most setups. Also consider that many (most?) of our users were probably behind restrictive corporate firewalls, and I'd expect home firewalls to be more lenient.
Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer
#26From https://zoom.us/privacy : > Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products. We may gather the following categories of Personal Data about you: > - Information commonly used to identify you, such as your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers > - Information about your…
> your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers
My problem with this isn't the info they collect, it's how they would collect it, which this privacy policy doesn't seem to clarify.
As it stands, this policy technically gives them the right to crawl through all my personal files or even listen using the microphone to search for and collect this information.
I'm not saying they are doing this, but the policy is not reassuring. I wish there was enforced legislation (so GDPR is excluded, as regulators don't give a fuck) to curb this. There should be a legal requirement describing exactly the information collected, how is it collected, transmitted, sorted and which third-parties it is given to, if any.
Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer
#27EFF seems to be the source: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-a... > If attendees of a meeting do not have the Zoom video window in focus during a call where the host is screen-sharing, after 30 seconds the host can see indicators next to each participant’s name indicating that the Zoom window is not active. It doesn't seem too invasive, although of course it'd still be annoying if you have t…
It seems reasonable for Zoom or any app to know whether its window has focus. That doesn't imply spying on anything else you're doing.
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#28That's messed up. Our zoom usage at the company has skyrocketed these past few weeks. I was marveling at how smooth and seamless the process was. Though I was a bit peeved zoom always steers you to the installed app instead of keeping it in the browser. Now I know why...
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#29Does anybody have a good alternative to zoom that does not do this?
I've been using both Uberconference and Google Meet (G Suite only). Both of these run entirely in a browser without any extensions or applications.
Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer
#30From https://zoom.us/privacy : > Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products. We may gather the following categories of Personal Data about you: > - Information commonly used to identify you, such as your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers > - Information about your…
That's shocking. How are they able to collect this?
Is that a technical question? All of that information is immediately available because you typed it in when you made your account, or because of the nature of the internet.
Seriously, you've given this information to any service you've ever signed up for and / or ran.