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Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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No. In the less formal event last Sunday, the e-sports drivers dominated the race and the highest finishing "real" F1 driver was in 8th, and incredibly proud of that achievement. Edit: this is for a variety of reasons. The greatest of which is that when you're actually going 200 MPH and risking hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage, and moreso your own life and limb and those of your competitors, your risk avers…

I would think the physical aspects aren’t the largest barrier to entry. As one could bluntly state it: because it takes a lot of money and connections to even be considered as a driver, it is statistically highly unlikely that, talent-wise, the current F1 drivers are in the top 1% or even top 25% of the world. If Senna were born in tropical Africa, or even if he hadn’t had wealthy parents, he probably wouldn’t ever h…

That's a bit harsh on F1 drivers tbh. Sure, ultimately you need money, but Senna started early in Karting and was already showing great talent there allowing him to get financial backing and support that helped him further his career. He went through a lot of Karting and open wheel racing until finally reaching F1. You don't get there just by money, at least the top5 guys have mostly won everything there is to win before entering F1.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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This is fun! Obviously not a patch on the real thing, but could still be entertaining, as long as they keep non-real-racers out. The minute you add an esport driver I lose all interest.

This global situation seems like the ultimate time to fire up every major esport tournament.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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post #14
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. In the less formal event last Sunday, the e-sports drivers dominated the race and the highest finishing "real" F1 driver was in 8th, and incredibly proud of that achievement. Edit: this is for a variety of reasons. The greatest of which is that when you're actually going 200 MPH and risking hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage, and moreso your own life and limb and those of your competitors, your risk avers…

I would think the physical aspects aren’t the largest barrier to entry. As one could bluntly state it: because it takes a lot of money and connections to even be considered as a driver, it is statistically highly unlikely that, talent-wise, the current F1 drivers are in the top 1% or even top 25% of the world. If Senna were born in tropical Africa, or even if he hadn’t had wealthy parents, he probably wouldn’t ever h…

Sorry, I don't buy it. You could make the same argument about almost any sport. But the reality is that training is a huge part of skill, not just in-born talent. You can't just grab some random person from tropical Africa and have him play some sport alongside trained and experienced veterans and expect him to win, no matter how great his physical attributes are.

The money and connections are useful for getting drivers into the sport, but they're not going to succeed in it if they can't develop the necessary skill.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Is the game a good enough simulator? Should real drivers be the best F1 streamers with a good wheel setup? This is really pushing the notion of work from home.

In the Netflix series, Drive to Survive, you could see one of the younger drivers (I don't recall who it was) play the Codemasters game at home. It didn't look like exposition or product placement, but rather like something that they regularly did to train.

I think that's mostly to build familiarity with the tracks. Many games have done excellent jobs of mapping the tracks to high precision including the backgrounds. So, all the visual cues will translate well to real life.

I've done this myself for some track days (not races) and can tell you it absolutely helps even at my tragically amateurish skill level.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Is the game a good enough simulator? Should real drivers be the best F1 streamers with a good wheel setup? This is really pushing the notion of work from home.

Compared to other racing simulators the official F1 games are, to put it kindly, not the highest fidelity. Their design is geared towards mass market accessibility, not accuracy. For more serious sim racing, iRacing is usually the game of choice. Some of the younger F1 drivers play iRacing in their (now quite copious) spare time and they generally do quite well.

Yeah, I was surprised to see they're going with F1 instead of iRacing. I guess it makes sense for branding/licensing deals, but iRacing is the far better sim.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Is the game a good enough simulator? Should real drivers be the best F1 streamers with a good wheel setup? This is really pushing the notion of work from home.

I'm surprised they didn't go with a more mainstream title like Forza, which has surprisingly accurate physics in it. It's not specifically built for F1, but maybe they could do a DLC for this. The other huge benefit is that players can put themselves in the same setups as the drivers and compare speeds. That would be awesome.

You're surprised they're using their own-branded game instead of a third party game?

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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This is fun! Obviously not a patch on the real thing, but could still be entertaining, as long as they keep non-real-racers out. The minute you add an esport driver I lose all interest.

This global situation seems like the ultimate time to fire up every major esport tournament.

Meanwhile, League of Legends suspended all professional leagues, because they don't play remotely. I'm pretty sure they even have isolated, local servers for tournament play. And I still see games paused with "lag" as the reported reason.
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