Why are the specs not more configurable? You could offer it at a lot lower of a price if a costumer can get 16 GB of GPU without 244 GB of RAM.
Vagon – Personal high performance computer in the cloud
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the idea is it comes pre-prepared for people who cannot spawn an environment from scratch on AWS or any other cloud provider for their purpose
To be fair AWS does offer that https://aws.amazon.com/workspaces/pricing/?nc=sn&loc=3 . But, Vagon is somehow cheaper than AWS, which I almost never see.
As a non dev-opsy person, I do not think i can create an environment to use. To be fair though, I cannot understand amazon pricing compared to vagon's enough to have an opinion eitherway
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#23Wow, mixing monthly and hourly pricing like that is borderline fraud. Especially when you advertise it as a $8/mo service when the actual price for a typical 160h work month is $215. For the cheapest option. That's 26x the advertised price! At that point, buying an equivalent computer yourself would break even in months. And it'd work without a stable internet connection! Here in Sweden all taxis advertise the compon…
I wouldn't call it fraud, just confusing.
I wouldn't even call it that. Many services have base prices and additional usage prices.
You may call this expensive, but for things you need a few times a month it may make great sense. I'd even consider it if the base price wasn't that high (usage also seems like a bit much, but then again you're getting good power).
What I wonder the most about is how it compares to other cloud computing offers, as the nature of the offering doesn't seem that special and I'd most likely use it as a build server (although a media editing use case would be interesting as well, since it'd mean I wouldn't have to keep around a Windows installation, but then file transfer becomes an issue).
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair AWS does offer that https://aws.amazon.com/workspaces/pricing/?nc=sn&loc=3 . But, Vagon is somehow cheaper than AWS, which I almost never see.
As a non dev-opsy person, I do not think i can create an environment to use. To be fair though, I cannot understand amazon pricing compared to vagon's enough to have an opinion eitherway
Note: I have not used this service before.
I'm pretty sure this is an almost exact competitor to Vagon. You're not creating an environment. It's a full desktop right out of the box.
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#25Seems like a wrapper for, and should be compared with https://aws.amazon.com/workspaces/pricing/
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No, no, no. It's a serverless personal computer.
This is not serverless. If you're specifying specific units of compute that is traditional cloud computing.
It was a joke, but virtual desktops are capable of dynamic resource allocation. For example, you might see you have 32BG of RAM, but you won't be allocated the last 16 until you need them.
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#27There are other services like this, mostly for gamers. Vagon is $1.29/hour, plus $8/month.
There's no technical problem doing this, but it's an expensive service to provide. The pricing is usually too high to get a market. NVidia's GEForce Now and Google's Stadia are running at a loss for promotional reasons. The game industry's reaction to Stadia is that almost everybody who considered supporting it expects Google will cancel that service.
Is Vagon reselling AWS, or do they have their own data center?
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#28Wow, mixing monthly and hourly pricing like that is borderline fraud. Especially when you advertise it as a $8/mo service when the actual price for a typical 160h work month is $215. For the cheapest option. That's 26x the advertised price! At that point, buying an equivalent computer yourself would break even in months. And it'd work without a stable internet connection! Here in Sweden all taxis advertise the compon…
I think you're looking at it wrong. The price for the base service (so storing your settings/app configuration) is $8 /mo while the usage itself is added to that. The pricing to me is pretty straightforward. On a side note, do you really take solace in watching businesses go to bankruptcy? Why though?
When someone says "Starting at $8/mo" that usually means you can start getting something of value at $8/mo. In this case, that's false.
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#29At work, we use Paperspace quite a bit for Desktop-as-a-Service in order to teach distance learning and in-person classes. We like not having to rely on our users having beefy(ish) laptops or being able to install software on them. The killer paperspace features for us, in no particular order, are: 1. Private networks -> keep classes isolated 2. Shared drives -> mount read-only class data 3. Create machine images ->…
How do you remote into Paperspace instances? Is there a custom client that performs well? Every few months I'll tinker with setting up a Linux desktop in some generic cloud provider, but the lack of good remote desktop X solutions is always a pain point. EDIT: after some more clicking around I managed to find references to a Paperspace "native app" for remote desktop. I may sign up for an account and give it a try, s…
We generally use the browser interface, since many of our classes have both a GUI app and commandline work -- we've done this with both the Windows VMs and the linux ones. For linux desktop (Ubuntu), we use the ML-in-a-box image as our base and build on top of that. The linux VMs you can also SSH in via your favorite terminal/client
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#30There are other services like this, mostly for gamers. Vagon is $1.29/hour, plus $8/month. There's no technical problem doing this, but it's an expensive service to provide. The pricing is usually too high to get a market. NVidia's GEForce Now and Google's Stadia are running at a loss for promotional reasons. The game industry's reaction to Stadia is that almost everybody who considered supporting it expects Google w…
Yes, we built vagon on top of AWS with goal of eventually supporting multiple cloud providers. Our thinking is there's already a reliable, state of the art network of datacenters around the globe for our consumption, it makes sense to use it.