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1 million nights booked at Airbnb (YC W09)

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Estimate of revenue to date: $50 per night * 3% * 1M = $1.5M Hmm looks like Airbnb handles the credit card transaction for the lister. If 2 out of that 3% goes to the credit card companies and banks, the adjusted revenue is $500k.

I think this is an underestimate. They also charge a per-booking transaction to the person booking. It is around $10. Assuming that the average booking is 3-nights that's another $3M.

Re: 1 million nights booked at Airbnb (YC W09)

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Glad to see a lot of people were able to book rooms there. I wasn't, but not for lack of trying. I wish they would offer hosts more flexible controls for showing availability (and make sure hosts use them) so that people don't try to book places only to get negative responses from hosts who don't know if it'll be available at the time and to check back later. I was trying to book a place in SF for Google I/O and got…

Hey, thanks for your feedback! We're continually working to improve the core experience on Airbnb, and we'll be fleshing out some updates to the calendaring system in the near future to address problems like this. (I'm a backend engineer at Airbnb - feel free to write me at raph@airbnb.com if you have any other feedback to pass along.)

Awesome, looking forward to trying again when there's a little more clarity in availability (or when I need a place on short notice, because it looks like that kind of situation is where Airbnb really hits it out of the park).

Re: 1 million nights booked at Airbnb (YC W09)

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Estimate of revenue to date: $50 per night * 3% * 1M = $1.5M Hmm looks like Airbnb handles the credit card transaction for the lister. If 2 out of that 3% goes to the credit card companies and banks, the adjusted revenue is $500k.

I think this is an underestimate. They also charge a per-booking transaction to the person booking. It is around $10. Assuming that the average booking is 3-nights that's another $3M.

You're right. I suppose the 3% is meant to just about cover the credit card fees then.

E.g. http://www.airbnb.com/rooms/73581 . Click the 'more info' link that's just below the 'Book it' button. It says in tiny print "Excludes Airbnb service fee ($9)".

Odd how they're hiding that fee; much worse than the typical hotel website that tries to hide taxes. Airbnb folks, I know you're reading: that instantly changed my impression of you guys from awesome to sleazy. Please make it more visible.

Re: 1 million nights booked at Airbnb (YC W09)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is an underestimate. They also charge a per-booking transaction to the person booking. It is around $10. Assuming that the average booking is 3-nights that's another $3M.

You're right. I suppose the 3% is meant to just about cover the credit card fees then. E.g. http://www.airbnb.com/rooms/73581 . Click the 'more info' link that's just below the 'Book it' button. It says in tiny print "Excludes Airbnb service fee ($9)". Odd how they're hiding that fee; much worse than the typical hotel website that tries to hide taxes. Airbnb folks, I know you're reading: that instantly changed my imp…

Hotels, unlike Airbnb, get to make money off of the actual room charge. They also get to charge high rates for late bookings and general "just because."

Airbnb is a different business model than hotels. The $9 service fee is something that I happily pay for their service.

Edit: it is also right there on the submit reservation page:

http://cl.ly/3r0G0w3p1G0S0c093j3d

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

for now, but is it not subject to the same kind of quality degradation that all online communities are?

I imagine it is, but the bi-directional reviews show that the company has thought about that from the beginning. I'm MUCH more likely to book a place that is reviewed well, and I am sure that my reviews play a role in the renters decisions to accept me, as well.

The trick is growing the user base to new users that have no reputation. If "good" places won't rent to me, then the quality of the rentals from my perspective is quite poor.

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Estimate of revenue to date: $50 per night * 3% * 1M = $1.5M Hmm looks like Airbnb handles the credit card transaction for the lister. If 2 out of that 3% goes to the credit card companies and banks, the adjusted revenue is $500k.

Anybody have any insight into how they handle taxation? Is it up to the homeowner to declare any income derived from their rental as taxable income, or is up to Airbnb to keep track of the tax codes for every locale they have listings for?

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Ok AirBnB, great work so far. you've got 11 months till my honeymoon, get me some more choices: GO!

I have my honeymoon coming up in 8 weeks and wasnt sure if AirBNB was a good idea for that(?)

You've convinced me to at least give it a serious consideration. Unfortunately i've never seriously used AirBNB before.

Any advice?

Re: 1 million nights booked at Airbnb (YC W09)

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I've done my part, renting 4 places in Zurich, Milan, Barcelona, and Strasbourg over the last 2 weeks. I have yet to have a bad experience, and as soon as I move into my place, will absolutely be listing it. In fact, I'll be looking for an apartment with with an extra room, specifically to rent on Airbnb. Not just for the monetary aspect, but I've met some incredible folks over the past few weeks. The model just work…

may be this works because you are staying with a person only for a very short time and such a short time interaction is mostly nice...its long term interaction which becomes a problem many times.
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