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Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

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Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

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post #8

Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.

If the government in China had handled the problem, it sure would have saved the whole world a lot of trouble.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/wuhan-doctors-sa...

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#22
post #8

Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.

With great power comes great responsibility.

This is a global adversary, and a global response is required.

Perhaps when we dance this dance again, global health expertise and transparency will be the default from the beginning.

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#23
post #8

Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.

Because thats what matters to you? Were europeans sending aid to China a power move? It’s acceptable to send aid to each other, no matter who you appear to represent.

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#24

"Test kits" are just for sample collection. You still need throughput on a qPCR machine to get results.

Shouldn't there be hundreds of labs with these machines though? The United States government spends far more on healthcare than any other nation on Earth. That's not including private health costs. South Korea has the capacity to test 20,000 per day and has 1/6th the population.

Shouldn't there be hundreds of labs with these machines though?

Yes. Roche just got FDA approval on a SARS-COV-2 test that will take four (4) hours that works with two of their (whatever you call the machine) models. Per Roche there are around 110 of those machines in the United States. Bloomberg had estimated throughput numbers and also indicated that Roche has tests that work with some of their other, slower equipment (that I assume is in the US as well).

Mayo Clinic recently developed a 2 hour test.

The limits on testing are, from my POV, entirely political at this point.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/815522836/u-s-coronavirus-tes...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-13/roche-get...

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#25
post #8

Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.

It's concerted effort by Chinese establishment to whitewash their handling of the whole thing. They even want to pretend that the virus didn't even originate in China!

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/asia/china-coronavirus-us...

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#26
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jack Ma cannot be trusted. He swings high and low, doesn't know where the ball is. He once hit a Alibaba home run and thinks he is a hotshot. It's hard to trust Jack Ma with undertones of the CCP propaganda in this humanitarian aid. Elon and Jack Ma debates in Shanghai, just listen this guy talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3lUEnMaiAU Edit: I am not defending the United States. Just look at what our president sa…

That hardly seems like the point, does it?

Not the commenter you're replying to, but I think that's exactly the point actually

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#27
post #4

The limiting factor right now is the availability of approved labs to perform the test

A big point of the Presidents address today was around relaxing regulations to help the response. So hopefully this will get sorted out.

Let's not forget that retailers are making their parking lots available, Google has deployed 1,700 engineers to build a flowchart website, and the US is buying up oil reserves.

I think this epidemic is pretty much solved, don't you?

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#28

One of the reasons the US developed its own test was that the test that China was using had a 48% false negative rate. These are probably the same tests.

citation needed.

Also, the US CDC could have used the German tests but instead pushed forward on making their own.

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#29

"Test kits" are just for sample collection. You still need throughput on a qPCR machine to get results.

This isn't correct. You also need the right primers/probes for the specific virus and controls to ensure accuracy of the test.

Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US

#30
post #8

Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.

He also sent similar to Iran, Italy, Japan, South Korea, and Spain - which makes it look a little less so, at least to my eye.
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