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Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Norway got more cases than denmark (622 vs 514), and our government is still asleep. The "wait and see" attitude makes shure they are always 3 steps behind.

Or, alternatively, everyone's freaking out over something that just isn't as big a deal as everyone's making it out to be.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

Probably best to shut them down too early or not at all. Grandparents tend to be relied upon as babysitters in time of need, so if you wait until transmission among school children is widespread your actions just delivered the virus to some of the most vulnerable populations.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are businesses being provided lines of credit or other funding sources to continue paying employees while their income might decline in the short term? Or are they able/expected to pay out of cash reserves or existing business credit lines?

yes, the specifics aren't out yet but a package is being put together right now by the government. We don't know yet how much, but the numbers are in the billions. The government is aware that this is a dificult situation financially for a lot of companies and are working to resolve it. A lot of it will be through delayed payment of taxes and VAT to keep cashflow.

This seems enormously complicated. How can the government reliably assess lost revenue? What about businesses whose expenditures were always unrealistic and a temporary closure pushed them over the edge, should they be covered too?

Note that I’m not criticizing the solution, just remarking on how hard the problem looks.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

A virologist mentioned that kids up until 19 basically don't get sick from this virus, something like 0.2%, and even if they do its not as hard on them as on adult in their 40ies or older. So indeed very counter productive

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are businesses being provided lines of credit or other funding sources to continue paying employees while their income might decline in the short term? Or are they able/expected to pay out of cash reserves or existing business credit lines?

yes, the specifics aren't out yet but a package is being put together right now by the government. We don't know yet how much, but the numbers are in the billions. The government is aware that this is a dificult situation financially for a lot of companies and are working to resolve it. A lot of it will be through delayed payment of taxes and VAT to keep cashflow.

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Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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All of these shutdowns, especially the large ones recently announced, raise the question: how long?

How long do we continue and what criteria will be used to begin opening things back up?

How long before other parts of the economy begin to fail?

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #14

Norway got more cases than denmark (622 vs 514), and our government is still asleep. The "wait and see" attitude makes shure they are always 3 steps behind.

At this point the number of cases is slightly less important than the rate. Denmark's numbers are increasing at a rate that's unprecedented amongst all current COVID-19 outbreaks (amongst the data that is available). The past 2 days the numbers in Denmark have tripled twice (and are on track to triple another time today).

You could expect Denmarks numbers to overtake Norway's before the end of today or whenever the new measurements come in.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't heard any authoritative sources talk about that. Do you have a cite? The world is in crisis. Arguing against public attempts to contain a virus based on "Something that I heard" is more than a little irresponsible right now. Surely the point is valid as a debate subject, but it needs numbers and it needs analysis. Prima facie, social isolation works, and at this stage is our only remaining hope at containme…

Joe Rogans show

Source : https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

Schools will be open for children with parents who have critical jobs. So it’s not really an issue.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

A virologist mentioned that kids up until 19 basically don't get sick from this virus, something like 0.2%, and even if they do its not as hard on them as on adult in their 40ies or older. So indeed very counter productive

They still carry it. And can in turn infect their parents
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