This is ok as long as it's explicitly opt in and I'm not going to be nagged every week to opt in for the same thing.
Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications
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#23As a consumer, i uninstall such apps.
One example is the german „KaufDa“ app which was quite useful to me. I complained about the unwanted push messages and their support pretended to be dumb. I ended up uninstalling it.
Only if consumers refuse to accept these annoyances it will stop.
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#24Does iOS have notification channels like Android? So you can disable the ads and keep other notifications from one app?
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#25> People with an app installed for their favourite clothing brand, for example, may welcome a push notification to alert them when a sale is on. So this wasn’t allowed before? But those “check out this stupid post from that random stranger” push notifications were allowed (maybe not on paper but definitely in practice)? Seems only fair then.
Promotional push notifications were technically against the rules but it was never enforced. Hell, Apple does it themselves.
App Store rules / human interface guidelines don't apply to Apple. They believe they (as opposed to 3rd party devs) don't need these restrictions to ship secure, high-quality apps with a great experience.
Whether they succeed is debatable, but the reasoning (although perhaps unfair) is understandable.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd still uninstall the app.
Would you uninstall Uber if they sent you a coupon via push notification?
I've uninstalled lots of apps when they've sent coupons via notifications. Notifications are to notify me about things I need to act on. They are not a marketing channel. So, yes.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly I interpret the article as apps were abusing push notifications without a second thought in the past when it was explicitly against the guidelines, I fail to see how they will self moderate now some of it is even allowed. With the ample data we have so far it most probably will lead to dark UI patterns with dysfunctional opt-outs and/or blanket consents at most if someone takes it seriously at all.
Then these apps would be removed from the app store, I suppose.
It is wishful thinking. I can recall no case when someone said we should spam less ads or do it in a more respectful manner.
These apps could have been removed long ago, per the guidelines.
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#29How about Apple bring down the hammer on apps that are abusing notifications right now (or you just uninstall them), instead of allowing ways to shove more ads into peoples eyeballs. There is no scenario where this is a benefit to the consumer.
They wouldn't, because they earn millions off of apps like Uber and co. It's why Youtube is more tolerant of bad behaviour of high-profile (read: high-viewer, high-income) channels, and Twitter hasn't banned Trump and his bots yet - they make too much money off of it, both directly and indirectly ('engagement', network effects, etc).
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#30Throwing a "This app wants to send you notifications" dialog as soon as you launch an app for the first time, should be banned.
Then you have to ban iOS, because it's the system that throws that notification if you run an app that has notifications in its capabilities list.