PS3 Hacker Raised All the Legal Funds Needed to Beat Sony in a Weekend • Hacker News Board

Re: PS3 Hacker Raised All the Legal Funds Needed to Beat Sony in a Weekend

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Post by dexen » Tue, Feb 22, 2011, 9:19 AM UTC

Groxx wrote: post #16

aspir wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A company supporting their involved, early adopting developer base? What? In all seriousness, its a huge marketing backfire for Sony to act in this manner, and a huge plus for Microsoft in it's respective choice. I understand the "magic black box" theory of product development as it referes to the 99% of the population that doesn't mod, but that 1% is a vital asset who's influence far exceeds their numbers. These two…

Sony has a history of huge backfiring actions. This is just another point to add to the trend-line.

Perhaps somebody at Sony HQ is reasoning along the lines, ``it's more important to be talked/written about, than it to be only positive news'' -- all this bickering about PS3 keys and Other OS feature created quite a bit of publicity anyway.

Re: PS3 Hacker Raised All the Legal Funds Needed to Beat Sony in a Weekend

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Post by yardie » Tue, Feb 22, 2011, 9:27 AM UTC

SoftwareMaven wrote: post #19

If Sony did not take a loss on every console sold, I wonder how much of an issue this would be. Ff they sold a PS3 that was 50% more expensive but with the feature "install whatever you want and don't worry about getting banned from PSN" could they could solve that problem? Of course, the content folks at Sony (who thought the rootkit was OK) would probably never allow for it. Not that I'll ever buy another Sony prod…

Does it really matter what they sold it for? If they sell it at a loss what about all the other things that are sold as a loss, daily? Like clearance items, loss leaders, etc.

Here is the facts. I bought a PS3 4 years ago for gaming. It has done that purpose very well, but the games currently coming out are lackluster (except the Drake series). I'm moving on from platform gaming because I'm paying more and getting less, each year.

Sony has gotten all the money out of the PS3 I'm going to give them. If I can keep my $600 shiny, black brick from collecting dust than I should be within my rights to do so.

Re: PS3 Hacker Raised All the Legal Funds Needed to Beat Sony in a Weekend

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Post by shrikant » Tue, Feb 22, 2011, 11:48 AM UTC

daniel_reetz wrote: post #12

I am so glad to be present for the early stages of this kind of emergent support network. Recent examples from Reddit (who often choose to support people with no "internet standing"), job offers here at HN, and the intense support people like myself have received over at MetaFilter are almost totally unprecedented. And I'm not even going to bring up Anonymous. Now that I'm in a decent employment situation, I plan to…

Completely OT: but I would suggest that one of the options for people who have problems in their lives is to search through MetaFilter for "prior art" and the surrounding support/advice.

It took me a little while to accept that my problems were far from unique, and once I got over that and reached out (as a lurker - I only read through archives, didn't post anything), I'd go so far as to say that MeFi saved my life from a downward spiral.

I love the Internet.

Re: PS3 Hacker Raised All the Legal Funds Needed to Beat Sony in a Weekend

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Post by jgoewert » Tue, Feb 22, 2011, 1:51 PM UTC

hartror wrote: post #13

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

I'm surprised it took that long. Sony seem to have a magical Streisand effect button somewhere that gets triggered for insane reasons. Remember the BMI rootkit scandal, and the subsequent reaction? The AIBO case referenced is another example of Sony's auto-Streisand function in the legal team. The best part of all of this is that Sony's legal team have very clearly not properly considered the implications of him winn…

Note: This analysis is not a statement of agreement with their actions, just providing some insight. I am not surprised either but I don't think Sony can be compared with Streisand. From Sony's perspective this makes perfect sense and isn't some emotional over reaction, Someone has gotten around their security and if they don't pursue this it will be seen as an open invitation to hackers on all of Sony's platforms. A…

One of the addition things that needs to be mentioned akin to the bottom line is that the OtherOS feature was used to convince the EU that the system was a "Computer" not a "Gaming Console" which gave them significant cost reductions on import tariffs and taxes.

The removal of this feature aftermarket amounts to a shill game.