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Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by cryptoz »

belltaco wrote: post #8

>Health officials said that additional positive cases are not expected. What does this mean? That everyone who could have got exposed are already sick? Or that two weeks have passed with no more new flu-like illnesses?

A third option is that the statement simply isn't true / that it was said to attempt to reduce panic.

I think pretty much everyone expects additional positive cases. The statement is so vague, with no definitions of when, where or by what metric they mean "expected".

There has been significant misinformation around coronavirus, especially from US gov't officials - although not so much at the state level yet, from what I can tell.

Whoever is doing the 'expecting' on how there will be no future positive cases (whatever that means...I give it a couple hours/days before news breaks of an additional positive case near this location) is either intentionally misleading people, or the quote was taken out of context, or something.

I would certainly expect 'additional positive cases' to appear.

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Post by cryptoz »

waynecochran wrote: post #7
belltaco wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a coronavirus test. The CDC screwed the pooch by shipping defective kits and restricting the criteria for getting tested.

Yes, but these folks were not tested correct?

That is incorrect. At least some of the people were tested for coronavirus and the tests showed positive.

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Post by mbrubeck »

belltaco wrote: post #8

>Health officials said that additional positive cases are not expected. What does this mean? That everyone who could have got exposed are already sick? Or that two weeks have passed with no more new flu-like illnesses?

That’s a misquotation. The original source says “additional positive cases are expected”:

https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/news/2020/February/2...

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Post by aazaa »

From another story on the nursing home outbreak:

> "If we had the ability to test earlier, I'm sure we would have identified patients earlier," he [a Washington State health official] said.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/485302-officials-annou...

This is a pattern playing out with striking regularity:

1. Local authorities can't test for themselves.

2. CDC adjudicates testing requests, rejects many (most) of them.

3. People likely infected with COVID-19 are sent back home, to infect others.

Consider this case, posted to HN today:

https://abc7ny.com/5974999/

This pattern of apparently deliberate suppression of information can only fan the flames of what looks like a rapidly escalating problem.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by epiphanitus »

kabdib wrote: post #19
waynecochran wrote: post #2

How do you differentiate influenza from covid-19? These folks probably just have the flu. I live in WA state and I had the worst case of the flu I can remember about 3 weeks ago. Did I have covid-19? No way to really know.

Bellevue, WA here; I had a very bad case of the flu in early Feb (worst I can remember) and it took 3+ weeks to fully recover. Many cow-orkers were also affected (some meetings with 30+ people were down to a handful of people . . . not a bad thing under the circumstances). Our "patient zero" was a dev who came into work for a day with a cough. If you're sick, please stay home.

That's crazy, my mom who lives in the Seattle area got sicker than she's ever gotten with that bug. I knew it was going around, but I had no idea it was THAT rampant.

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Post by Pfhreak »

epiphanitus wrote: post #28
kabdib wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bellevue, WA here; I had a very bad case of the flu in early Feb (worst I can remember) and it took 3+ weeks to fully recover. Many cow-orkers were also affected (some meetings with 30+ people were down to a handful of people . . . not a bad thing under the circumstances). Our "patient zero" was a dev who came into work for a day with a cough. If you're sick, please stay home.

That's crazy, my mom who lives in the Seattle area got sicker than she's ever gotten with that bug. I knew it was going around, but I had no idea it was THAT rampant.

A real bad influenza swept through here. I was laid out for at least a week with a 102 fever.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by abootstrapper »

jlmorton wrote: post #13
waynecochran wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Statistically it is still far more likely that they had the flu. I think it is dangerous to overstate the problem because then when it really does become an issue it will be dismissed because of all the previous folks "crying wolf."

At this point, it's much more likely that these residents and staff were exposed to Covid-19. We know of two confirmed cases at this facility, and no confirmed cases of influenza. Given our knowledge of the contagiousness of Covid-19, it would make little sense to assume this cluster of respiratory illnesses is not Covid-19.

I mean, there’s always wishful thinking. That seems to be the US’s current response.
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