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Re: The file Clearview AI has been keeping on me

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Until our way of governing ourselves doesn't change, everything scientists and engineers do can and will be converted into a weapon or tool of oppression. We should be more vigilant and we should demand better from our elected officials.

We should always demand this, yet not count on it happening.

It would be nice to find ways to take these weapons and use them for self-defense as well. I wish I had a clue of what that would look like.

Re: The file Clearview AI has been keeping on me

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post #5

I don't see it get mentioned much, but Yandex's reverse image search [0] will also match similar facial images. It works surprisingly well. Other search images can obviously perform this function, but I think most stay away from it because of the creepy factor. [0] https://yandex.com/images/ - click on the camera for the reverse image search

Just tested it, it returns people with some similar features but that are obvious different persons, different face shape and size , maybe facial hair and glasses confuses it or they could not find any better matches so they returned just something so it is not empty.

I tried it with a picture of me and the top half dozen photos were, in fact, pictures of me. I was originally thinking there were also bizarrely a couple of photos of signs and then I realized I was standing next to a sign in the photo and that's what caused the algorithm to stick a couple of signs in there.

Re: The file Clearview AI has been keeping on me

#24
post #21

Until our way of governing ourselves doesn't change, everything scientists and engineers do can and will be converted into a weapon or tool of oppression. We should be more vigilant and we should demand better from our elected officials.

We should always demand this, yet not count on it happening. It would be nice to find ways to take these weapons and use them for self-defense as well. I wish I had a clue of what that would look like.

It would probably look like someone publishing the realtime location and browsing histories of powerful public figures.

But good luck with that; there's a reason why that sort of information isn't sold on a per-person basis.

Re: The file Clearview AI has been keeping on me

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post #16

How do we stop this? Can we sue Clearview through EFF with the grounds of violating copyright or some weird law? California/GDPR laws are great but they don't stop the data collection, merely allow the user to access it. We need to make companies like Clearview completely and unquestionably illegal. I am infuriated and don't know what we can do.

stop uploading your pics to internet then

Exactly! People think the Internet is like Disneyland but it's actually more like the bad parts of Bangkok.

Somewhere between the inter-networked machines and peoples' minds some kind of magical thinking takes over.

Why don't normal people understand that they are being actively fought by organized relentless enemies?

In the old days cities had walls around them, I think we're barely getting to that point on the internet now, despite repeated and continuous raids by all kinds of marauders.

Re: The file Clearview AI has been keeping on me

#26
> "Clearview does not maintain any sort of information other than photos,” the company wrote. “To find your information, we cannot search by name or any method other than image."

So a police force buys this product, searches for an image, and just gets more images. Really? What use would that be?

Re: The file Clearview AI has been keeping on me

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post #5

I don't see it get mentioned much, but Yandex's reverse image search [0] will also match similar facial images. It works surprisingly well. Other search images can obviously perform this function, but I think most stay away from it because of the creepy factor. [0] https://yandex.com/images/ - click on the camera for the reverse image search

Amazing! I just tried it on a picture of me, and it found several other photos of me that I had no idea were on the Internet, and a few photos of people that looked so much like me that I thought it was until I took a close look.

Re: The file Clearview AI has been keeping on me

#29

> "Clearview does not maintain any sort of information other than photos,” the company wrote. “To find your information, we cannot search by name or any method other than image." So a police force buys this product, searches for an image, and just gets more images. Really? What use would that be?

It links you to the source of the image which is presumably subpoenable for identity information.

Re: The file Clearview AI has been keeping on me

#30
>> “Clearview helps to identify child molesters, murderers, suspected terrorists, and other dangerous people quickly, accurately, and reliably to keep our families and communities safe.”

It helps to identify child molesters. "Think of the children".

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