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Re: Draft of the Fast.ai Book

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It looks promising! Minor point, a requirements.txt file or something would be convenient to get started quickly.

Once the book is released there will be a whole website and prebuilt environments and lots more to get started quickly.

We didn't expect the draft to get this much attention, frankly!

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It's a neat idea to write the entire book as notebooks - so you can have run-able code right in line. Definitely excited to check this out; thanks Jeremy and Sylvain!

These sorts of books have existed since the dawn of notebooks. While I think them useful for demonstrations, I don’t think there is much pedantic value (beyond a more static medium) in all honesty. Well-worked examples a student can consult while attempting to solve problems on their own is still of paramount importance.

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It always amazes me how bad some technical people is at basic promotion: What is Fastai? Why do I need it? Something as basic as an elevator speech that introduces your product in your github page and book intro can mean 10x or 100x more sales. If you force people into having to search it for you, you have already lost most of them. For this author it is as you already know everything about Fastai, but if you did, yo…

It's sad to see this perspective. With the AI hype, there are so many people spending all their time and money on marketing AI materials while their actual product is all smoke and mirrors.

By contrast, Jeremy and team have proven that "build it and they will come" is not dead. They built high quality courses and quickly became authoritative with no marketing and with full transparency and openness in everything they do.

This book draft looks great. Everyone else is talking about "democratising AI" - this is actually doing it.

Re: Draft of the Fast.ai Book

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post #15

It's a neat idea to write the entire book as notebooks - so you can have run-able code right in line. Definitely excited to check this out; thanks Jeremy and Sylvain!

These sorts of books have existed since the dawn of notebooks. While I think them useful for demonstrations, I don’t think there is much pedantic value (beyond a more static medium) in all honesty. Well-worked examples a student can consult while attempting to solve problems on their own is still of paramount importance.

Why can’t we have both? Great examples AND an interactive, reproducible medium?

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It always amazes me how bad some technical people is at basic promotion: What is Fastai? Why do I need it? Something as basic as an elevator speech that introduces your product in your github page and book intro can mean 10x or 100x more sales. If you force people into having to search it for you, you have already lost most of them. For this author it is as you already know everything about Fastai, but if you did, yo…

It's sad to see this perspective. With the AI hype, there are so many people spending all their time and money on marketing AI materials while their actual product is all smoke and mirrors. By contrast, Jeremy and team have proven that "build it and they will come" is not dead. They built high quality courses and quickly became authoritative with no marketing and with full transparency and openness in everything they…

We're building and improving our internal machine learning platform. We decided recently to support the fast.ai courses. You get everything you need (notebook, object storage, data, parameters and mettics tracking and deployment). Our colleague teaches at university and we're opening the internal platform to about 30 of her students this week to prepare their final masters project.

They don't have access to compute power (GPUs) or bandwidth to download datasets hundreds of gigabytes of data, which they'll find right there, so this should help them since they don't need to have powerful machines or worry about experiment tracking.

We also have a Publish option to make an application from a notebook in one click behind the scenes with training parameters in a form generated automatically, so they can write scripts and instrument model training.

The fast.ai course will also help current or future members, and other students. It's important for us to make it even easier for people to enter the field.

Re: Draft of the Fast.ai Book

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> There are also "agglutinative languages", like Polish, which can add many morphemes together to create very long "words" which include a lot of separate pieces of information. [1] Polish does not work this way. Source: I am Polish. Perhaps jph00 meant Turkish. Issue filed. [1] https://github.com/fastai/fastbook/blob/master/10_nlp.ipynb

Doesn't German work this way?

English too. Policeman, bathwater, catwalk, headstone, toothbrush, etc.

Re: Draft of the Fast.ai Book

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Wow, Orielly lawyers are determined to screw this up. The thing is GPL v3 licensed which means I can’t copy any of the book code in my closed-source product or competitions or even MIT licensed code. The readme says I cannot make copies of this material but it’s ok to fork. Huh?

No, the readme says you can make copies for personal use. If you want to use code in the book under a non GPL license, then you could just buy the book when it comes out. That doesn't seem like an unreasonable burden. PS: none of this is anything to do with O'Reilly or their lawyers.

Wait... so if you buy book then it seizes to be GPLed? This is quite confusing. For DL research, most code is MIT licenced and legal folks at many industrial labs would be quite hesitent to permit use of code from this repo with feels like legal minefield with different restrictions spread over multiple places including LICENSE, README, fastai website and perhaps printed book. I would highly recommand converting to one simple MIT license and call it a day (except for markdown cells).

Re: Draft of the Fast.ai Book

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are downvoted by fanboys but you are exactly right. I am surrounded by researchers working in DL and I have say at least 40% of them have never heard of FastAI or Jeremy Howard. However folks who are active on Twitter, listening to popular podcasts, popular media, HN etc would be very familiar with name Jeremy Howard and what FastAI is and need no introduction. In research world, an astonishing number of good res…

Fast.ai really democratizes the bleeding edge research for the masses, though, that’s why it’s popular among outcasts and outsiders. In general, I would be more wary of people working within closed environments and organizations than people making all they do public and open to review.

fastai is popular among practitioners as well as many researchers rather than just outsiders or outcasts. I've personally learned from it a lot and is amazing contribution. However, there is still a large population that is still unaware and it would be great to have a quick intro paragraph in readme so they know what all the fuzz is about.

Re: Draft of the Fast.ai Book

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post #15

It's a neat idea to write the entire book as notebooks - so you can have run-able code right in line. Definitely excited to check this out; thanks Jeremy and Sylvain!

It's an awful idea, notebook stability ages like milk

Re: Draft of the Fast.ai Book

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post #29
post #15

It's a neat idea to write the entire book as notebooks - so you can have run-able code right in line. Definitely excited to check this out; thanks Jeremy and Sylvain!

It's an awful idea, notebook stability ages like milk

What do you mean by stability in this context?
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