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India is the next internet frontier (2018)

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Re: India is the next internet frontier (2018)

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India is the next Internet frontier, in that the state has awful laws with no respect for the privacy of their users.

I hope there are other frontiers than states & governments infringing & clawing nastily at the Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace, but it sure seems like that's going to be one of the biggest anti-developments splashes for quite a while.

And India seems absolutely to be a vanguard force in fighting heavily against freedom & user rights.

Re: India is the next internet frontier (2018)

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> I am not sure if India is ready to deal with unchecked free flow of information Fellow Indian, 100% agreed. Most of people who told me Wikipedia was unreliable now trust random WhatsApp forward messages.

But this is just stupidity. Does exist also a lot in the western world, but I don't see, how that can improved with restricting information flow?

Yup, there is no magic potion for imparting critical thinking. If anybody thinks Indians are the only ones affected by misinformation, please go to the Twitter feed of the current president of the United states, and read the replies.

Re: India is the next internet frontier (2018)

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But this is just stupidity. Does exist also a lot in the western world, but I don't see, how that can improved with restricting information flow?

Yup, there is no magic potion for imparting critical thinking. If anybody thinks Indians are the only ones affected by misinformation, please go to the Twitter feed of the current president of the United states, and read the replies.

I totally agree that misinformation is everywhere but I still think there's a huge difference in just how impactful/dangerous misinformation can be in countries like india vs the US.

I'm not indian, but a very similar pattern of a sudden explosion in internet access happened in Morocco, where I'm from. Morocco has a relatively large population of uneducated or barely educated young people that are super active on the internet and to be honest, the results are just horrible. Especially since majority of them are unemployed (which isn't their fault, the job market there is just horrible) and have nothing else to do anyways. And what happened to the two danish girls murdered there imo is directly related to that mix of totally ignorant people with total access to information they can barely process that end up radicalized

Re: India is the next internet frontier (2018)

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There is a revolution boiling. Jio not just made internet accessible, it became catalyst in braking the barrier of classes and location and thinking, and education. The whole importance of it will be felt in coming decades if not years. It's crazy out here.

I am all for cheaper and accessible internet, but I have a few concerns. On pricing, the incumbents really needed a jolt with their terrible pricing. But I think Jio went a little too far. It achieved all that it has by excessive and extended predatory pricing, primarily because it had access to unprecedented amounts of cash (from Ambani/Reliance) that the other providers do not. Vodafone-Idea and Airtel (the other m…

Yes - my heart bleeds for Vodafone and Airtel who kept data prices 10 times higher than they are now and sat on fat profits for years without building their 4G network. And kept milking us for "value-added" services we had not asked for.

And Jio is the bad guy for going up against the incumbents with a risky, but smart strategy of investing in the latest technology.

The reality is that there was no other way to match the incumbents except by growing the customer base quickly - as all other competitors have found. As a consumer i am very happy Jio did what it did, and I bet that no matter what happens, I will never pay as much for data as i was paying before Jio came.

Re: India is the next internet frontier (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, there is no magic potion for imparting critical thinking. If anybody thinks Indians are the only ones affected by misinformation, please go to the Twitter feed of the current president of the United states, and read the replies.

I totally agree that misinformation is everywhere but I still think there's a huge difference in just how impactful/dangerous misinformation can be in countries like india vs the US. I'm not indian, but a very similar pattern of a sudden explosion in internet access happened in Morocco, where I'm from. Morocco has a relatively large population of uneducated or barely educated young people that are super active on the…

Misinformation has a huge impact everywhere, and I don't see how other companies are more immune to it. With the president of the US claiming climate change is a hoax, invented by the Chinese, and Boris Johnson, the current PM of England, saying NHS will get so much money back on leaving the EU, these countries sure don't look immune. Mind you, these are not trivial lies, these are lies believed by a huge number of their followers. And both of the above people ended up winning elections.

Re: India is the next internet frontier (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am all for cheaper and accessible internet, but I have a few concerns. On pricing, the incumbents really needed a jolt with their terrible pricing. But I think Jio went a little too far. It achieved all that it has by excessive and extended predatory pricing, primarily because it had access to unprecedented amounts of cash (from Ambani/Reliance) that the other providers do not. Vodafone-Idea and Airtel (the other m…

Vodafone may not survive the back taxes [1], and Airtel is struggling with those as well. Somehow Jio didn't have to pay any. https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-what-i...

Jio did not have to pay any - probably because they started 5 years ago? This issue is from 2005 - Jio started in 2015 December.
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