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Drug dealer loses codes for €53.6m Bitcoin accounts

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Re: Drug dealer loses codes for €53.6m Bitcoin accounts

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The chance that some random service run in the Bitcoin space exists in even a years time is vanishingly small. Yes, even yours.

If I close down, I have to refund all my customers. And it isn't a limited company, so those refunds come out of my personal bank balance. You can bet I'll be running it for 10 years.

I’ll hold you to that.

Re: Drug dealer loses codes for €53.6m Bitcoin accounts

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Until it gets owned by an unpatched CVE, anyway.

Pretty hard to own a VPS which has no external ports open, even if the software on it is years out of date. In fact, updating software is probably a bigger security risk than not doing so, because you never know when someone manages to package a malicious bit of code into a common debian package. Also, if it did get owned, I'd just have to spend a few hours rebuilding it - no bitcoin wallets or anything to steal on t…

Fair point about updates being a mixed bag. But “no ports open” doesn’t always mean safe. Maybe someone can pass some evil bits inside transaction metadata? (Disclaimer: no idea what I’m talking about w/r/t transactions, or how much parsing you’re doing)

Re: Drug dealer loses codes for €53.6m Bitcoin accounts

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It is plausible to run a service on a $5 VPS. Pay $120 ahead of time and you have it for two years. I don't know why you think it would be so fragile. It wouldn't be difficult to run locally either.

Until it gets owned by an unpatched CVE, anyway.

Sound like FUD, what reason do you have to think a VPS set up correctly would have such a high probability of being exploited? What numbers do you have that show this is common?

(Also, again, someone could easily run something locally)

Re: Drug dealer loses codes for €53.6m Bitcoin accounts

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Pretty hard to own a VPS which has no external ports open, even if the software on it is years out of date. In fact, updating software is probably a bigger security risk than not doing so, because you never know when someone manages to package a malicious bit of code into a common debian package. Also, if it did get owned, I'd just have to spend a few hours rebuilding it - no bitcoin wallets or anything to steal on t…

Fair point about updates being a mixed bag. But “no ports open” doesn’t always mean safe. Maybe someone can pass some evil bits inside transaction metadata? (Disclaimer: no idea what I’m talking about w/r/t transactions, or how much parsing you’re doing)

If that were possible it would be exploited on every instance of the insecure software. Luckily what you are saying is far fetched. Why is it that you think a VPS is some fragile thing that is sure to be exploited? There are literally millions of instances chugging away, serving up files. Let's use our best judgement.

Re: Drug dealer loses codes for €53.6m Bitcoin accounts

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Imagine how many lives were destroyed with drugs worth €53.6m.

Oh no, anything but the devil's lettuce. Wont somebody think of the children!

Don't make light of cannabis, it is a drug and like all drugs has side effects. Even moderate use can seriously retard and arrest brain development in teenagers and it can accelerate the onset of schizophrenia in those who are at risk. It's also been associated with lack of motivation, focus, bipolar disorder, depression, and anxiety among a host of other issues later in life.

Fully grown adults should be able to choose to do what they want but people who peddle drugs to children deserve nothing short of the death penalty.

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