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I was specifically asking about the common law theft part. A Mexican who enters the US without a visa and buys a house there is living there illegally according to immigration law, but that doesn't mean their house is stolen property. They're orthogonal legal questions.
It's UN Human Rights Office, not UN itself. UNCHR is an odious organization that focuses on Israel to the exclusion of pretty much anything else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Co...
> The United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC; French: Conseil des droits de l'homme des Nations unies,[2] CDH) is a United Nations body (...) I know some people dislike it, but lets stay with the facts here. It is "the UN" as much as the security council is "the UN". Both are relevant parts of it and if we choose and pick which ones we like things get very messy, very fast (even more than it is already).
"As of 2018, Israel has been condemned in 78 resolutions by the Council since its creation in 2006—the Council has resolved more resolutions condemning Israel than the rest of the world combined".
Do you seriously believe that the rest of the world combined has less human rights issues than Israel. If you don't believe that then the only logical conclusion is that the organization is biased and I will always take anything they say with a massive grain of salt.
It's UN Human Rights Office, not UN itself. UNCHR is an odious organization that focuses on Israel to the exclusion of pretty much anything else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Co...
It is part of the UN. See this BBC article for more: BBC News - UN lists 112 businesses linked to Israeli settlements https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51477231
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> The United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC; French: Conseil des droits de l'homme des Nations unies,[2] CDH) is a United Nations body (...) I know some people dislike it, but lets stay with the facts here. It is "the UN" as much as the security council is "the UN". Both are relevant parts of it and if we choose and pick which ones we like things get very messy, very fast (even more than it is already).
Come on dude, at least read the linked wikipedia article. Quoting: "As of 2018, Israel has been condemned in 78 resolutions by the Council since its creation in 2006—the Council has resolved more resolutions condemning Israel than the rest of the world combined". Do you seriously believe that the rest of the world combined has less human rights issues than Israel. If you don't believe that then the only logical concl…
I keep hoping that both sides of the Israel/Palestine issue will start boxing a bit smarter... but it never happens.
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Come on dude, at least read the linked wikipedia article. Quoting: "As of 2018, Israel has been condemned in 78 resolutions by the Council since its creation in 2006—the Council has resolved more resolutions condemning Israel than the rest of the world combined". Do you seriously believe that the rest of the world combined has less human rights issues than Israel. If you don't believe that then the only logical concl…
The difference is that most countries at least pretend to care about fixing issues, or deny they exist in the first place. With Israel the answer is typically a more blatant “we know and we don’t care”. This obviously attracts more condemnation, in a vicious circle, and enables people who oppose the existence of Israel on ideological grounds. I keep hoping that both sides of the Israel/Palestine issue will start boxi…
I disagree with that assessment. Israel gave away a ton of territory they've won in defensive wars. Sinai back to Egypt - that area alone is several times the size of Israel. South Lebanon back to Lebanon. Gaza back to Palestinians. Prior to Syrian civil war there was talk of Golan Heights going back to Syria in exchange for peace. There were multiple major attempts to make peace (like Clinton effort) where the Arabs walked away.
This tells me that Israel is willing to talk and the other side - no so much.
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I was specifically asking about the common law theft part. A Mexican who enters the US without a visa and buys a house there is living there illegally according to immigration law, but that doesn't mean their house is stolen property. They're orthogonal legal questions.
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2. The Quora thread klipt linked to included several answers from several people, and did not cite any particular one of them. Picking a single one of those several answers, making an ad hominem based on the person who supplied that one answer, and ignoring the other 18 answers in that thread is pretty ridiculous.
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1. pfc50 commented on this from a common law point view. klipt asked for citations to support that. If you didn't want to talk about the common law question, why did you respond? 2. The Quora thread klipt linked to included several answers from several people, and did not cite any particular one of them. Picking a single one of those several answers, making an ad hominem based on the person who supplied that one answ…
2. Deceptive framing on your part. The thread is obviously brigaded by people with a conflict of interest, don't insult my intelligence. The overwhelming majority of answers there are by people, who live in Israel and have no qualifications to answer the question in an unbiased manner. Have you even read some of the answers there? Obviously not, otherwise you wouldn't try to defend the indefensible.
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The difference is that most countries at least pretend to care about fixing issues, or deny they exist in the first place. With Israel the answer is typically a more blatant “we know and we don’t care”. This obviously attracts more condemnation, in a vicious circle, and enables people who oppose the existence of Israel on ideological grounds. I keep hoping that both sides of the Israel/Palestine issue will start boxi…
> With Israel the answer is typically a more blatant “we know and we don’t care” I disagree with that assessment. Israel gave away a ton of territory they've won in defensive wars. Sinai back to Egypt - that area alone is several times the size of Israel. South Lebanon back to Lebanon. Gaza back to Palestinians. Prior to Syrian civil war there was talk of Golan Heights going back to Syria in exchange for peace. There…
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> With Israel the answer is typically a more blatant “we know and we don’t care” I disagree with that assessment. Israel gave away a ton of territory they've won in defensive wars. Sinai back to Egypt - that area alone is several times the size of Israel. South Lebanon back to Lebanon. Gaza back to Palestinians. Prior to Syrian civil war there was talk of Golan Heights going back to Syria in exchange for peace. There…
This has nothing to do with the human rights of people living in the territories, please don’t reach for talking points.
These are not talking points. It’s my observation.